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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:16 pm 
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Maybe Brassard will score his monthly goal tonight. Dude is very milquetoast.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:18 pm 
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I'd get rid of Brassard, Rust, Maatta, Johnson, Oleksiak, Sprong, Cullen....


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:20 pm 
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Boom what a shot by Oleksiak!


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:34 pm 
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Man, that puck might have gone in off that McDavid breakaway. Not sure it’d have been overturnable, but it sure looked like it snuck between Murray’s legs and over the line


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:38 pm 
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Murray is a shitpile.

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:50 pm 
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Crosby, luckily, is not.

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
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Woooooow.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:51 pm 
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Holy shit what a goal!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:52 pm 
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McDavid is good but Crosby just reminded everyone in Edmonton that McDavid isn’t Crosby


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:06 am 
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Just watched the goal four straight times. Hockey porn right there.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:39 am 
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Orangesteel wrote:
Just watched the goal four straight times. Hockey porn right there.

lol I also watched it four straight times-- like, 'how the hell did he do that???'

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:17 am 
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Orangesteel wrote:
Just watched the goal four straight times. Hockey porn right there.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Great game!


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:38 am 
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I just caught the highlights of this game

Holy fuck is Johnson terrible. I mean that was flat out beer league level defensive awareness


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:15 am 
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I thought Murray didn't look as sharp or confident as he did the other night in Toronto. That is concerning. Looked like Draisaitl beat him on the stick side twice in the same spot.
Talk about getting beat on the glove side-Talbot was mesmerized by the Crosby move and didn't even move his glove as the puck went over it.

I wanna to know, really know whose IDEA it was to bring Johnson to the team?


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:29 am 
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I thought Murray didn't look as sharp or confident as he did the other night in Toronto. That is concerning. Looked like Draisaitl beat him on the stick side twice in the same spot.
Talk about getting beat on the glove side-Talbot was mesmerized by the Crosby move and didn't even move his glove as the puck went over it.

I wanna to know, really know whose IDEA it was to bring Johnson to the team?


I know what Talbot's trying to do: he's attempting to move his glove closer to the puck so Sid has less angle to get the puck upstairs, he knows Sid likes to elevate it. But that's a hard maneuver to pull: pushing your glove forward while trying to move laterally, all the while attempting to stay compact.

As for Johnson, it's well known that he and Sid are tight off the ice, so there is your connection.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:57 am 
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Just saw replays. Mcdavid couldn't score on a breakaway but Sid has what, four defenders and fakes all of them out of their jockstraps?

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:34 pm 
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
fractalsteel wrote:
I thought Murray didn't look as sharp or confident as he did the other night in Toronto. That is concerning. Looked like Draisaitl beat him on the stick side twice in the same spot.
Talk about getting beat on the glove side-Talbot was mesmerized by the Crosby move and didn't even move his glove as the puck went over it.

I wanna to know, really know whose IDEA it was to bring Johnson to the team?


I know what Talbot's trying to do: he's attempting to move his glove closer to the puck so Sid has less angle to get the puck upstairs, he knows Sid likes to elevate it. But that's a hard maneuver to pull: pushing your glove forward while trying to move laterally, all the while attempting to stay compact.

As for Johnson, it's well known that he and Sid are tight off the ice, so there is your connection.


Hadn't thought of the glove angle-interesting. I thought Talbot had enough time to slide over because Crosby had traffic to deal with but Sid finished.

As far as JJ goes, I know those two were tight before they came into the league. I have no doubts that Crosby probably lobbied for JJ but you have to believe that the decision to bring him in was either on Ruth or Sully or both ahead of placating Sid.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:44 pm 
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Problem too is with Shultz being out half the season we are stuck from a personnel standpoint on defense (well, maybe we are).

I see JJ playing hockey the same way Rob Scuderi did for us when he was past his prime. Slow moving, so concerned with not making a mistake that he freezes out there and only 1) sends the puck to the corner or 2) throws it up the glass (which is essentially an automatic turnover)

Now I’m starting to see some bad defensive breakdowns from him in our zone, and really, don’t even ask him to do anything in the offensive zone (he often struggles to even help maintain possession in the others team’s end). Rutherford may need to get creative here.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
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Orangesteel wrote:
Problem too is with Shultz being out half the season we are stuck from a personnel standpoint on defense (well, maybe we are).

I see JJ playing hockey the same way Rob Scuderi did for us when he was past his prime. Slow moving, so concerned with not making a mistake that he freezes out there and only 1) sends the puck to the corner or 2) throws it up the glass (which is essentially an automatic turnover)

Now I’m starting to see some bad defensive breakdowns from him in our zone, and really, don’t even ask him to do anything in the offensive zone (he often struggles to even help maintain possession in the others team’s end). Rutherford may need to get creative here.


Scuderi's issue at the end of his tenure is that he couldn't keep up. Positionally I think he KNEW where he needed to be, he just couldn't get there. Plus he was just so mis-matched with the Pens' transitional game

Sadly JJ HAS the physical tools to get where he wants- he's a pretty gifted player and has a ton of talent. But man he's so freaking dumb. It's like he's received ZERO NHL coaching. I wish we could give him the Schultz treatment when he first got here: favorable zone starts, easy competition and we're going to ease you in. Because if you look at Schultz defensively from when he got here to today, it's amazing


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:54 pm 
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We currently have a bunch of 6th and 7th D guys masquerading as 3rd, 4th and 5th defensemen.

I kept hearing commentary from the talking heads here in Pittsburgh about how this was the deepest D unit the Pens have had in years.

But I was pretty skeptical. We still have pretty much the same unit we had last year. We just added Jack Johnson with the hopes that he was going to help stabilize one of those middle pairings, but he has some how made it even worse. I was hopefully that he'd be adequate. While his contract is certainly high for someone to be adequate, that's all I wanted out of him. Be a solid #4-#5. But he's nowhere near that and is currently a giant anchor in the middle of a unit that can't tread water, especially with Schultz out.

I never thought I'd see the day I'd want to see Ruwedel back in the lineup, but goddamit if we aren't there right now.

Get well soon, Schultzy!


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:35 pm 
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We're there, Lipps. Johnson has sucked by, well, just being himself. I had hoped there might be a bit of a sea-change for his career coming to Pittsburgh, but so far, not so much. Will gladly eat crow if it happens, but not holding my breath. He and Maatta, as mentioned above, were beyond brutal last night.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
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We're there, Lipps. Johnson has sucked by, well, just being himself. I had hoped there might be a bit of a sea-change for his career coming to Pittsburgh, but so far, not so much. Will gladly eat crow if it happens, but not holding my breath. He and Maatta, as mentioned above, were beyond brutal last night.

They're going to look especially bad vs teams with overall team speed. Not that they're all-world in other games, but they're serviceable vs a team that doesn't have sprinters (Edmonton/NJ come to mind).

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
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Ice wrote:
We're there, Lipps. Johnson has sucked by, well, just being himself. I had hoped there might be a bit of a sea-change for his career coming to Pittsburgh, but so far, not so much. Will gladly eat crow if it happens, but not holding my breath. He and Maatta, as mentioned above, were beyond brutal last night.


The worst part is that it really doesn't matter how bad Johnson is, or gets. They're probably never going to sit him. Too much money, and he's Sid's BFF.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:05 pm 
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It’s really nice to see Oleksiak step up on the offensive side of the puck. Dude seems to know when to rush it himself. He’s tough and has a nasty shot.

Beyond he and Tanger (who suddenly looks like a DPOY candidate again), our defensive players rarely get involved. That’s what makes SJ so dangerous this year with Burns and Karlsson. That’s two defensive lines that basically skate like there are 4 forwards on the ice. Great passers and awesome shooters. Wish we would have made a run at Karlsson.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Oilers 10-23-18
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Just watched Sid’s goal a few more times.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that was SWEET!


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