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 Post subject: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating up
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:29 pm 
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/n ... tchen.html

I don't know much about the players we'd get from the Nats being mentioned in the article I just linked, but the scuttlebutt is we almost pulled the trigger on Cutch going to the Nats last year with Victor Robles (mentioned in the article) being part of that deal.

And the Bucs are apparently looking for (their favorite word) controllable starting pitching and a mix of prospects or ML-ready players.

Stay tuned...Nats apparently would like to complete any deal before tomorrow's contract-tender deadline because landing Cutch would shuffle their existing lineup and leave no room for Danny Espinoza, who they would then not tender an offer to.

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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:45 pm 
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Ah yes...one team striving to win a championship...one team looking to make/save money.
Beat em Bucs...hoka hey...and all that shit! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
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Why would I buy season tickets? Let's get Melancon back.


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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:44 pm 
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Joe Ross is a good young pitcher. If the Bucs got Ross and Robles that would not be a bad return.

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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
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NH cannot make a deal for 22 that doesn't include a viable veteran starter for immediate inclusion into the rotation in 2017.


Get it done ;)


This is the right move on dealing 22 now while the return can be had and the outfield can again be a defensive weapon with Polanco in LF and Marte in CF with Bell's bat playing everyday in RF.


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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
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hopalong wrote:
Why would I buy season tickets? Let's get Melancon back.



Yes, Cutch for Melancon and 2 players to be named. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
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ironzabo wrote:
NH cannot make a deal for 22 that doesn't include a viable veteran starter for immediate inclusion into the rotation in 2017.


Get it done ;)


This is the right move on dealing 22 now while the return can be had and the outfield can again be a defensive weapon with Polanco in LF and Marte in CF with Bell's bat playing everyday in RF.

sadly I agree..id miss cutch but if the cards are played correctly the bucs could improve...


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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:58 pm 
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Greetings Gents. Let's pretend this deal isn't the fire sale that we know it is because "the standard is and continues to be the standard." It's been said that whenever a trade involves a superstar for multiple players that the team getting the superstar has the advantage -- known commodity vs. unknown commodities. Sometimes it works the other way -- hopefully that will prove to be the case here, but really why would DC need to part with anything significant knowing NH just wants to dump more payroll? Do you really think NH will say no if DC offers a ridiculous package (you know, like the Jays offered for Frankie last July)? NH is more interested in the principal going into the Nut's wallet than the principal of the thing.

My hope here is that the DC GM owes NH a favor, or that the DC GM will do NH a favor today for 15 tomorrow. That would translate into NH getting multiple players lauded by multiple experts allowing NH to take this to the fans still willing/ready/able to grow the Nut's wallet. YOC + Bell here + Meadows on the way = Championship in the next 5 years. Just think of it -- the Pirates have become the Montreal Expos of the 1990s, the team that migrated to DC to become the legit contender the Pirates keep promising Pirate fans is on the way (soon and very soon you know).

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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
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This was part of the plan the whole time. Maybe not this soon, but this was part of the plan. The Pirates had a window, they got close but they didn't get it done, and now they start over. Hope like hell G Cole can turn it around, because his day is coming soon.

Welcome to being a fan of a small market team, in a rich team poor team league, trying to win in a no-cap league with an owner who will not deficit spend.....say it all together................The most fucked up sport in the history of professional sports.


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 Post subject: Re: Talks between Bucs and Nats for Cutch apparently heating
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I disagree with Bling.

If the Pirates trade Cutch, they have to do it right. They have to get real talent in return.

The fans have been patient, but if this looks like a fire sale, they'll stop coming.

So we have to get real talent that everybody agrees is real talent back in return.

I think even Nutting and Neal understand that.

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