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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:29 am 
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Zeke5123 wrote:
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Reaves... I think many people are going to be disappointed bc my bet is he plays in the playoffs.
Guess it is what it is at this point


I want Sprong getting minutes. But in the playoffs, I'd rather Sprong get 8 minutes compared to Reaves.


You'll get no argument from me.

I question this team's personnel moves in the offseason: jettisoning Archi and Wilson. Playing Kuhn and Reaves. I mean swap those players for the 4th line and tell me this team doesn't look significantly different with it's speed attack.

Now we're slow and plodding. I feel like we've gone away from what's made us successful


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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They sent Sprong back down.
Looks like Rust is ready to return.

Let me ask this-why not give Sprong another chance and have Rust play in Reaves place? Lets see what the lineup looks like with some youth and speed.

I'm starting to believe that Rutherford is forcing Reaves on Sullivan.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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They sent Sprong back down.
Looks like Rust is ready to return.

Let me ask this-why not give Sprong another chance and have Rust play in Reaves place? Lets see what the lineup looks like with some youth and speed.

I'm starting to believe that Rutherford is forcing Reaves on Sullivan.

Call me crazy-- could they be showcasing Reaves for a deal? If there's a possibility he helps in a deal, I can see playing him... but let's make the deal soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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fractalsteel wrote:

I'm starting to believe that Rutherford is forcing Reaves on Sullivan.


Oh I've felt this from the beginning. Lot's of talk from JR that he felt Sid/Geno were getting abused and it needed to end since the league wasn't going to protect them

Heck Reaves gets like 6 mins a night, that tells you all you need to know


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Looks like Ryan Reaves could be a healthy scratch tonight. Last forward on the ice.

11:05 AM - Jan 23, 2018


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Looks like Ryan Reaves could be a healthy scratch tonight. Last forward on the ice.

11:05 AM - Jan 23, 2018

Thank the fucking hockey gods.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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This is a good start.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:30 pm 
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Ryan Reaves is a healthy scratch. 1/23/18

Here's the wall of fail!!

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Me thinks Sid's taken one too many cross checks from hacks like Brandon Dubinsky.
Me thinks Sid and Geno (maybe through Sully) asked JR for some protection.
Me thinks JR's #1 objective now is to WIN whilst having Sid/Geno/Phil/Letang/Murray/etc.



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All the critics miss something else -- Gary Roberts, Mike Rupp, Bill Guerin, Eric Fehr -- all tough guys with some skills.
Protection in the regular season. Grit in the playoffs.



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The real benefit in having an enforcer like this isn't that they can go get vengeance for Sid


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Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts
Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts



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Your post otherwise was ridiculous. There's plenty of spectrum between "best deal of all time" and "sucks ass".


-Jeemie

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came here to see what u knowledgable folks thought..more I see bout this the more I like..dude is tough bad ass!...watching pens in playoffs I kept wondering where our bad asses were to kick some ass and stop the mauling of sid!! I welcome this cat! dude looks fast too when needed.. I bet he turns into good scorer on pens instead of the laboring st louis offense too.like some here suggested I bet sully sid and gino all exspressed we need a bad hombre to help out at times! should be fun to watch!!


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and the bolded is exactly what I thought upon hearing this news. I think he might have more offensive skill than Kunitz at this point of their respective careers.


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Reaves is going to have his career year this year. Great situation for him, and he's been improving each season.

--B2B


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Let’s be honest, the Blues need a guy like Reaves to climb onto the ice, immediately putting the other team on notice for having their ass handed to them. He doesn’t just hit the other guy; he runs them the fuck over. He is feared on the ice, and is the only Blue who can police opposing players out there. If Pittsburgh had Reaves, Sidney Crosby may not have six concussions during his career


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I'll bet Reaves scores 12-13 goals for us next year, while protecting Sid & Co.



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As JR said, when you go out and get the guy who is the best at what he does, you have to pay for it. Reaves is the best at what he does, and it's something we need - toughness and grit and striking fear in the opponent.



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very true -- people comparing Reaves to Sestito make me laugh -- Reaves is 10000X more of a hockey player/skater than Sestito


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dumbasses like Hacksaw are playing checkers while JR is playing chess

That's why fucking idiots like him don't get the trade


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I posted this already, but here's a reminder of what Reaves can do -- Not many "enforcers" can skate and score like this:


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good article -- Pretty much the consensus view of (most) on the board here (except for at least one numbskull)

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:29 pm 
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:o hey nothing wrong with being optimistic!!! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Mea culpa. He doesn’t fit here at all and he’s late to shoot on every opportunity. I swear he looked better than this on tape. If he were good enough to finish, he could play on a better line but he’s not.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:26 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mea culpa. He doesn’t fit here at all and he’s late to shoot on every opportunity. I swear he looked better than this on tape. If he were good enough to finish, he could play on a better line but he’s not.


Newsflash: better C's make mediocre Wingers look good

Reaves hasn't had anything resembling a decent C here. Reaves would be fine with Cullen. I'd argue Reaves is a better hockey player than Kuhn. A tad slower, yea...

We've had trash at the 4C the entire year....Reaves formed a solid 4th line for STL because he had a good pivot


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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I liked the idea of it at the time, the trade seemed a bit much (though Sundqvist hasn't exactly set the world on fire, either).

Reaves has been a little more active than Sestito. I'll probably give him that.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:48 pm 
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Ryan Reaves is a healthy scratch vs. Minnesota Wild. 1/25/18


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Will Reaves ever get back into the lineup?

HS 1/30/18


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:42 pm 
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mea culpa. He doesn’t fit here at all and he’s late to shoot on every opportunity. I swear he looked better than this on tape. If he were good enough to finish, he could play on a better line but he’s not.


Newsflash: better C's make mediocre Wingers look good

Reaves hasn't had anything resembling a decent C here. Reaves would be fine with Cullen. I'd argue Reaves is a better hockey player than Kuhn. A tad slower, yea...

We've had trash at the 4C the entire year....Reaves formed a solid 4th line for STL because he had a good pivot



It's about role. I think both Kuhn and Reaves would see an uptick in play with a Cullen-type center. Rightfully, Kuhnackl is favored because he can kill penalties. No surprise, Sullivan doesn't value Subway Sandwiches of the Game and great interviews over special teams play.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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I honestly don't get why people have it in for Tom Kuhnhackl. I think he is adequate as a 4th liner.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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I honestly don't get why people have it in for Tom Kuhnhackl. I think he is adequate as a 4th liner.


I dislike him for a multitude of reasons:

1) He falls down half the time (and I'm not exaggerating)
2) He can barely catch a pass
3) Sully seems to be his pet
4) Most importantly, he's plodding and doesn't fit the identity of this team.

Put Kuhn in the West and I think he's ok to bang around with the bigger guys. I get that not every player is going to be a great passer/shooter/etc, but I'd rather have a fast guy with no hands than a slow guy with no hands on this team.

He's labeled as this PKer extraordinaire and he failed to get a simple clear on the 1st PP goal against and then the 2nd PP goal he didn't block (and he's supposedly the god of shot blocking). He's been poor on some prior Pks as well.
I'd rather have a quicker guy from WBS on the PK who can hound the puck carrier and harass them vs someone like Kuhn who is so reactive.

The past 2 yrs he's been a fine 13th F who can occasionally play and give a good effort on the 4th line. But him playing regularly makes this lineup weaker. Swap Reaves for Kuhn and we don't lose much (and I'm not advocating for either guy to be a regular)


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
SteelPro wrote:
I honestly don't get why people have it in for Tom Kuhnhackl. I think he is adequate as a 4th liner.


I dislike him for a multitude of reasons:

1) He falls down half the time (and I'm not exaggerating)
2) He can barely catch a pass
3) Sully seems to be his pet
4) Most importantly, he's plodding and doesn't fit the identity of this team.

Put Kuhn in the West and I think he's ok to bang around with the bigger guys. I get that not every player is going to be a great passer/shooter/etc, but I'd rather have a fast guy with no hands than a slow guy with no hands on this team.

He's labeled as this PKer extraordinaire and he failed to get a simple clear on the 1st PP goal against and then the 2nd PP goal he didn't block (and he's supposedly the god of shot blocking). He's been poor on some prior Pks as well.
I'd rather have a quicker guy from WBS on the PK who can hound the puck carrier and harass them vs someone like Kuhn who is so reactive.

The past 2 yrs he's been a fine 13th F who can occasionally play and give a good effort on the 4th line. But him playing regularly makes this lineup weaker. Swap Reaves for Kuhn and we don't lose much (and I'm not advocating for either guy to be a regular)


Yet he still falls down less than Sheary...

Kuhn is average speed; not slow. He actually has some skill. Really irritating player actually because sometimes you see some pretty good skill but it rarely flashes. He is a solid 4th liner.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Get ready for the Reaves return.
Sheary is week to week and Rust took his place next to 12/87 in practice.

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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No doubt Kuhnackl is approaching his expiration date, but I could also see him being the bottom-6 heir apparent to the thorn that was Craig Adams.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Because of injury, Ryan Reaves unfortunately made his way back into the lineup tonight against the Capitals (2/2/18). I'm going to live update this because I know not much will change on the stat sheet.

Despite all the geniuses on this board saying Reaves would deter other teams from playing dirty with the Penguins, the Capitals had their way with 60 minutes of dirty hits and cheap shots. Reaves did nothing.

Here's one such quote!

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The real benefit is the preventative in that we can now put a hurting on your stars too. Bullets don't fly in a Cold War.


--SteelPro

Not good enough? How about another! Let's bring up our favorite super retard, 57-year-old yinzer steel, and his mindless post from June. Notice his typical poor use of capitalization and punctuation.

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Fuckin A Right -- DETERRENCE WORKS


--steel the retard

So, who got things right here? Well, it was your resident super genius, Hacksaw Jim Duggan. HOOOOOO!!!!!

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Let's forward to the 2017-2018 season. Picture this, Sidney Crosby is in front of the net in the first round of the playoffs against the wild card New York Rangers. Then, a scene all too familiar occurs, Marc Staal cross checks Crosby viciously in the back of the head. But wait! Here comes Reaves off the bench to rescue our captain and violently assault Staal. Oh. Oh wait. You mean a player's presence on a team isn't going to stop Crosby or any other star from getting pummeled? You mean that has been proven the case time and time again? You mean maybe the problem is the league's inability to police and protect their stars? You mean Reaves got a 10-game suspension for leaving the bench? Oh. "Vengeance for Sid"? What a fucking stupid comment. Yes, the Penguins star player is out of the game with a concussion. Don't worry! Here comes our tough guy Reaves to get a 5 minute boarding major! Hooray! Dumb. Clueless.



Reaves vs. Capitals
0 Goals
0 Assists
0 +/-
7:56 TOI
10+ times he watched a Capitals player cheapshot a teammate and did nothing.
1 Ian Cole crushed via Tom Wilson. Reaves did not engage Wilson.
1 Kris Letang assault from T.J. Oshie. Reaves watched from a foot away
1 Patric Hornqvist demolished by Brooks Orpik. Reaves does not establish any physical presence.

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Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.Man you have fallen on hard times.

Even the dig on steel doesn't rescue this from being one of your dumber posts.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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This is a fun game.

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He’s everything we expected him to be when we acquired him,” Sullivan said earlier this week. “He brings a dimension to our team that has certainly made our opponents aware of how they play against us.”


- Mike Sullivan, 2 time Stanley Cup winning coach

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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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SteelPro wrote:
This is a fun game.

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He’s everything we expected him to be when we acquired him,” Sullivan said earlier this week. “He brings a dimension to our team that has certainly made our opponents aware of how they play against us.”


- Mike Sullivan, 2 time Stanley Cup winning coach


Is that dimension being a healthy scratch? Playing 5 minutes a night? What were the Capitals aware of last night?

Do you like this next quote?

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“He’s a guy that brings a physical element to our team,” Penguins coach Mike Sullivan said after his club’s 7-4 win. “He has the ability to create some anxiety and he has the ability, I think, to give our players a certain comfort level when they’re on the ice.”


--Mike Sullivan, two-time Stanley Cup-winning Coach, on Tom Sestito, current AHL player for the Pittsburgh Penguins. This player could have done the same thing for the Penguins and not cost a first round pick. I mean, with such high praise from Mike Sullivan, why even bother with Reaves? Mike Sullivan sure does seem to support his own players by positively praising them. That's so weird. But since he's been scratching Reaves, it's almost like...hmm...I don't know. Maybe he was saying positive things about Reaves but really weighing rational thoughts in his head to create the best lineup for his team to win?

You know what? I think someone mentioned Tom Sestito earlier in this thread. Oh my God! It's coming back to me.

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I don't mind the addition of a guy to the lineup to protect the stars. I can see a need for it in the regular season against the Flyers or Capitals. Tom Sestito can fill that role. Oh, and hey, he wouldn't cost a first round pick and a ok prospect.

--Hacksaw Jim Duggan

Holy. Shit. It's almost like I could SEE INTO THE FUTURE!

What yesterday proved to me is Reaves CAN'T fill that role because he didn't punish the Capitals players for targeting Penguins. Sestito has proven in the past to do just that.

Get triggered. Don't feel bad. You're not the only one who was clueless.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/cap ... 42e38985fe
Reaves was there. He certainly stopped this from happening.


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This IS fun! :lol:


Let's play a fun game. Let's use the same scenario I mentioned in June and replace Staal/Crosby with Letang/Oshie.

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Let's forward to the 2017-2018 season. Picture this, Kris Letang is along the boards in a regular season game against the Capitals. Then, a scene all too familiar occurs, T.J. Oshie cross checks Kris Letang viciously in the back of the head. But wait! Here comes Reaves from literally four feet away to come to our defensemen's resuce. Oh. Oh wait. You mean a player's presence on a team isn't going to stop Letang or any other star from getting pummeled? You mean that has been proven the case time and time again? You mean maybe the problem is the league's inability to police and protect their stars? You mean Reaves got a 10-game suspension for a post whistle assault? Oh. "Vengeance for Letang"? What a fucking stupid comment. Yes, the Penguins star player is out of the game with a concussion. Don't worry! Here comes our tough guy Reaves to get a 5 minute boarding major! Hooray! Dumb. Clueless.


It's like I could see into the future! Whoa!

100% right. Again.


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Because of injuries to our star players because the Capitals weren't pissing their pants at the sight of Ryan Reaves, Mr. Reaves got to get in his 5-6 minutes of pure waste tonight in a 3-1 loss in New Jersey.

Here are the stats.

0 G
0 A
0 +/-
6:57 TOI

Another banner day. We're coming closer and closer to that 10-12 goal season, right retard steel?


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 Post subject: Re: Ryan Reaves
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Surprise! Reaves scored a huge goal to get the Pens rolling vs Vegas 2/6/18. Unfortunately, he'll likely be useless for another 15 games. Good to see the current scapegoat beat the former scapegoat for a goal in a classic Fleury meltdown.

1 Goal
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