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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:53 pm 
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He did it right this time. This is a really good essay he did with that writer from SI explaining his decision.

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/11/lebron ... -cavaliers

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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My opinion means nothing. I am not a Heat nor a Cavs fan, but the reason he left Cleveland is because they had a horrible front office and the coaching situation wasnt conducive to winning the championship. Not much has changed so why should the results change now that they have James. I think going to Cleveland was about ego.In the end he can go there and have some success and not win and everyone there will love him because he came home and tried.

The only proven commodity there is Irving and he was one step away from leaving before there was a chance to get Lebron.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I don't claim to be any kind of basketball expert (and i'm no fan of the NBA), but did the Heat win anything because of coaching? Or was Spoelstra along for the ride? I guess we'll see how good of a coach he is now. I always thought the consensus was the Lebron had some input on the guys they brought in during his last go round in Cleveland, that he signed off on them. If not, I think he'll have a big say this time around. I'm sure he'd have put some conditions in place in agreeing to come back.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I'm LMAO at Cleveland fans cumming themselves, like a hot girlfriend that treated you like shit coming back and all is forgiven because you got nothing better.

What Lebron really said (I mean, ACTUALLY did say) - "I had to go get a ring and live in a great, fun city....now I'm ready to come back to CLE"

Here's to Lebron coming up short again and again to break hearts in CLE all over again!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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CaptainFantastik wrote:
I always thought the consensus was the Lebron had some input on the guys they brought in during his last go round in Cleveland, that he signed off on them.


I believe that's true. I also think CLE might have won a championship with better coaching, but just a year or two earlier Lebron had endorsed the coach.

He probably has learned a few things from being in MIA, so maybe this time around he'll get better mileage from his "input".


Anyway, I'd rather the Cavs win a title than the Browns!

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I think he goes to Cleveland. He wants to be the GOAT. If he just sticks in Miami with the big 3, it's going to be a big fat asterisk. He needs to will a team to a championship or two, and he knows it. He can do that in Cleveland. Plus, what a great narrative that would be.


BINGO.

Winning one title in CLE is worth 3-4 more (if he could even win that many) anywhere else, as far as legacy.

When he left I referenced Ernie Banks. There's something noble about sticking it out with a long-suffering franchise, even if you fail. There's nothing noble about being a mercenary. I think his only choices were MIA and CLE - more rings anywhere else was never going to give him the recognition a Jordan or Kobe has as far as championships.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Kodiak wrote:
I'm LMAO at Cleveland fans cumming themselves, like a hot girlfriend that treated you like shit coming back and all is forgiven because you got nothing better.

What Lebron really said (I mean, ACTUALLY did say) - "I had to go get a ring and live in a great, fun city....now I'm ready to come back to CLE"

Here's to Lebron coming up short again and again to break hearts in CLE all over again!! :lol:



You sound like a douche. Go Cavs.

Not only Cleveland has Cavs fans. I've been a Cavs fan since I was old enough to watch basketball. Big Z was my dude before LeBron came. I watched LeBron play against my HS, he was a stud at 16 years old. He is a good guy too, does a lot for kids all around the country. Win or lose, he is a champion FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF OHIO. Everyone else doesn't have it like we do over here. It's electric even where I live in central Ohio. The Buckeyes are ALWAYS national news. Now the Browns are getting headlines. Manziel is a diant douche who I hope the Steelers embarrass, but he could be the real deal. The Cavs will win at least one championship.

LeBron came back because he is an Ohio guy. He wrote a great letter about how going to Miami was like going to college is for most people. Cleveland is where his heart is. They have a ton of young talent now, you obviously don't know anything about basketball. Irving, Waiters, Thompson, all lit it up during the season and all star weekend. Bennett looks great tonight, and Wiggins has potential. Not to mention the Cavs are close to completing a deal for Kevin Love.

Without LBJ, Miami wouldn't have won those two trophies.

Quote from LeBron's article;

"I feel my calling here goes above basketball. I have a responsibility to lead, in more ways than one, and I take that very seriously. My presence can make a difference in Miami, but I think it can mean more where I’m from. I want kids in Northeast Ohio, like the hundreds of Akron third-graders I sponsor through my foundation, to realize that there’s no better place to grow up. Maybe some of them will come home after college and start a family or open a business. That would make me smile. Our community, which has struggled so much, needs all the talent it can get."


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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He wrote a great letter about how going to Miami was like going to college is for most people.


And why do most people go to college? To have fun and to learn. He's saying he couldn't do that in CLE. Unintentional or not, that's a forehanded insult.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I can't explain in a post how this has affected Northeast Ohio. It goes way, way, way beyond basketball.

I am shocked at the emotions I personally experienced yesterday as this unfolded, reading the essay. I am not an emotional guy nor do I have more than a passing rooting interest in the Cavs. I teared up. Friends of mine who are true Cleveland fans were crying. Not trying to sound like a hard ass, but, these are tough men I have never seen cry.

Honestly I have no words for it. It seems silly that where some dude decides to play basketball could have so much of an affect on a region. All of the hype is true.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Kodiak wrote:
I'm LMAO at Cleveland fans cumming themselves, like a hot girlfriend that treated you like shit coming back and all is forgiven because you got nothing better.

What Lebron really said (I mean, ACTUALLY did say) - "I had to go get a ring and live in a great, fun city....now I'm ready to come back to CLE"

Here's to Lebron coming up short again and again to break hearts in CLE all over again!! :lol:


They're TOTALLY RIGHT to welcome him back! The choice is continue to be garbage forever in order to have PRIDE that you didn't welcome him back. Or just say piss on, come on back, we forgive you, and have some fun at least contending, instead of sucking.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I hope he can win a couple of titles there. I don't hate Cleveland like I do Baltimore. Often times it's fun to poke fun at them when it comes to the Browns and such but everyone on my mom's side of the family is from there. And whether most can admit it or not.....they and Buffalo are very much like Pittsburgh as far as the relationships these cities have with their teams. The people down here in South Florida have no concept of that, or anywhere else i've lived (northern and southern California). And there's no point trying to explain it. South Florida will be over Lebron by Monday morning.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I think it's funny how the entire city wrote him off and hated and now love him again

I think I'm going to market T shirts that say "I hate him" on the front and "I love him". On the back

It's fucking comical the complete 180 these clowns have done

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Iron_City wrote:
I think it's funny how the entire city wrote him off and hated and now love him again

I think I'm going to market T shirts that say "I hate him" on the front and "I love him". On the back

It's fucking comical the complete 180 these clowns have done


Would you pass on a chance to win, just to hold a grudge? Not me! That's petty to me. I'd rather welcome him back, forgive and forget and return to the top, or near it, if I am a Cavs fan. And have FUN watching my team again for at least a few years, rather than SUCK just to hold that grudge. After all, sports is not some serious part of your life, like some religion or something, it's just a TV Show or an entertainment option, watching wins > watching losses.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Iron_City wrote:
I think it's funny how the entire city wrote him off and hated and now love him again

I think I'm going to market T shirts that say "I hate him" on the front and "I love him". On the back

It's fucking comical the complete 180 these clowns have done

I'm not in Cleveland so I wouldn't know but is it possible they never really HATED him but hated the spectacle that was "the decision"?

Regardless they have it good with him back, he's a better player now than when he left. You add LeBron with Kyrie, and Wiggins(or if they trade for Love) and they will in contention in the East next season.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Iron_City wrote:
I think it's funny how the entire city wrote him off and hated and now love him again

I think I'm going to market T shirts that say "I hate him" on the front and "I love him". On the back

It's fucking comical the complete 180 these clowns have done


You have no idea what you are talking about.

Cavs fans hated how he shit in their faces on national TV. My HS played against his, so I've been follwing his basketball career since he was a freshman. He was the chosen one for the whole state of Ohio. This is a guy who had all the hype in the world and actually lived up to it. That's why Dan Gilbert wrote the letter. He was crushed by LeBron, and so were Cavs fans across the country.

LeBron knew that what he did was immature and owned up to it.

He developed into a leader while carrying Miami on his back. The Cavs will be a legit threat to win it all for the next 5-7 years easy, barring injuries.

Bennett and Wiggins already look NBA ready in summer league. Bennett has lost 25ish pounds and looks athletic.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Steelcody36 wrote:
Iron_City wrote:
I think it's funny how the entire city wrote him off and hated and now love him again

I think I'm going to market T shirts that say "I hate him" on the front and "I love him". On the back

It's fucking comical the complete 180 these clowns have done


You have no idea what you are talking about.

Cavs fans hated how he shit in their faces on national TV. My HS played against his, so I've been follwing his basketball career since he was a freshman. He was the chosen one for the whole state of Ohio. This is a guy who had all the hype in the world and actually lived up to it. That's why Dan Gilbert wrote the letter. He was crushed by LeBron, and so were Cavs fans across the country.

LeBron knew that what he did was immature and owned up to it.

He developed into a leader while carrying Miami on his back. The Cavs will be a legit threat to win it all for the next 5-7 years easy, barring injuries.

Bennett and Wiggins already look NBA ready in summer league. Bennett has lost 25ish pounds and looks athletic.


how did it work out when you tried to un-burn his jersey?

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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You know a guy is worth welcoming back if him leaving hurt you enough that you burned his jersey.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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He's the best player in the world, I get it. But I live in NE OH. I listened to the masses and what they said about him. Radio stations still refer to him as a traitor.

Now that he's coming back, a complete 180.

The Cleveland sports fanbase is a tired bunch

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Iron_City wrote:
Steelcody36 wrote:
Iron_City wrote:
I think it's funny how the entire city wrote him off and hated and now love him again

I think I'm going to market T shirts that say "I hate him" on the front and "I love him". On the back

It's fucking comical the complete 180 these clowns have done


You have no idea what you are talking about.

Cavs fans hated how he shit in their faces on national TV. My HS played against his, so I've been follwing his basketball career since he was a freshman. He was the chosen one for the whole state of Ohio. This is a guy who had all the hype in the world and actually lived up to it. That's why Dan Gilbert wrote the letter. He was crushed by LeBron, and so were Cavs fans across the country.

LeBron knew that what he did was immature and owned up to it.

He developed into a leader while carrying Miami on his back. The Cavs will be a legit threat to win it all for the next 5-7 years easy, barring injuries.

Bennett and Wiggins already look NBA ready in summer league. Bennett has lost 25ish pounds and looks athletic.


how did it work out when you tried to un-burn his jersey?


Never burned it.

I was more pissed at Dan Gilbert for refusing to sign legit players around him. He added aged has beens, rather than young talent.

I let him know too, and am still blocked by him on Twitter.

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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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Iron_City wrote:
He's the best player in the world, I get it. But I live in NE OH. I listened to the masses and what they said about him. Radio stations still refer to him as a traitor.

Now that he's coming back, a complete 180.

The Cleveland sports fanbase is a tired bunch


They're tired of LOSING, I don't blame them for saying, "Fuck it, we forgive the asshole, at least he eventually wanted to come home, now win us something!" Better than holding a grudge and watching the team play for a lottery pick every year.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I hate Lebron and this bullshit and his fucking essay to announce it just makes me hate him even more. What a douche.

Cleveland fans, way to make mockery of yourselves. You deserve all the losing and failure your city endures. Here is to it continuing.

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I hate Lebron and this bullshit and his fucking essay to announce it just makes me hate him even more. What a douche.

Cleveland fans, way to make mockery of yourselves. You deserve all the losing and failure your city endures. Here is to it continuing.


Just a question for you then. Let's say you where a Cavs fan and they let you decide, would you...

A) Take him back, forgive him and have a "chance" to win something and at least have a decent team to watch for a few years?

or

B) Tell him "No Thanks asshole" and tell him to go elswhere and continue to follow a losing team and cheering that the Cav's ping pong ball flies up to the top at the NBA draft lottery every summer after watching everybody and anybody else in the playoffs?


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Nick79 wrote:
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I hate Lebron and this bullshit and his fucking essay to announce it just makes me hate him even more. What a douche.

Cleveland fans, way to make mockery of yourselves. You deserve all the losing and failure your city endures. Here is to it continuing.


Just a question for you then. Let's say you where a Cavs fan and they let you decide, would you...

A) Take him back, forgive him and have a "chance" to win something and at least have a decent team to watch for a few years?

or

B) Tell him "No Thanks asshole" and tell him to go elswhere and continue to follow a losing team and cheering that the Cav's ping pong ball flies up to the top at the NBA draft lottery every summer after watching everybody and anybody else in the playoffs?


It's a ridiculous choice, they aren't letting Joe fan decide anything. I'm not a Lebron or Cavs fan and I'm not required to like or respect either one or their decisions. Let's say I'm not a fan, and I don't care about justifying who goes where. I'm not playing the game.

Cleveland decided to tank like a motherfucker after Lebron left, mismanaged the shit out of their organization and their owner is a crying little bitch. They tanked like a motherfucker to get Lebron in the first place. I don't respect that and I don't think they should be rewarded for that. They could have used all their high ass lottery picks to build a team, like most everyone else does.

Lebron is a punk ass, I have never liked him, not when he was King James as he came into the league from high school, not the "we are witness" bullshit like he was a deity, not after the decision and how he was going to win 6 titles with the heat, and he's not winning me over with an essay in SI about he's going home. Fuck him.

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OK, I just don't take these things that seriously. I don't have a strong like or dislike of LeBron or the Cavs, I'm kind of nuetral on that, don't care.

But I will tell you this, if my *NBA team was to acquire him, I'd be HAPPY, just for what he brings on game day and the real chance to win that he brings just by being on the roster.

If I was a Cleveland sports fan, I'd be good with him coming back, because for TODAY, my team will LIKELY be better and at least for a while fun to watch and maybe MIGHT even win something.

You know my position on sports, it's a TV Show and just an entertainment option, and winning is more entertaining than losing. I just like sports on the surface, I don't delve in what I think of the people, AS PEOPLE and how they act or think on their own time

*I'm not a big NBA fan anymore, but my team going back to the '70s, (BEFORE MJ) was always the Chicago Bulls, If LeBron was to join the Bulls, my interest would ramp up to '90s levels or close to it.


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 Post subject: Re: James Miami vs Cleveland
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I'm not taking what happened seriously other than I don't like Lebron or anything from Cleveland really. I don't follow the NBA much anymore either, in part because of shit like the Lebron worship.

I find plenty of entertainment in the pain and suffering of those I do not like. I want to win and crush their spirits in the process. Tears of anguish are delicious.

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