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Author:  Still Lit [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:18 am ]
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Apparently a few of us here on the board really love jazz. Post your favorites. I'd be especially interested in contemporary stuff you like since I think most of it is awful.

Currently receiving heavy rotation on Lit's turning table this week: Wayne Shorter's Speak No Evil LP. Has to be one of the most gorgeously arranged albums of the 60s. Drop a couple cubes in the tumbler and ease in.

Bass – Ron Carter
Drums – Elvin Jones (Hi Dan!)
Piano – Herbie Hancock
Tenor Saxophone – Wayne Shorter
Trumpet – Freddie Hubbard


Author:  JackLambert58 [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:35 am ]
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I've been listening to John Coltrane the Prestige Recordings. Some of the best jazz ever composed there.

Love Ron Carter and Freddie Hubbard.

In no particular order

John Coltrane
Charlie Parker
Miles Davis (pre-fusion)
Duke Ellington
David Sanborn
Billie Holiday (best ever version of Autumn in New York)
Benny Goodman
Dizzy Gillespie
Coleman Hawkins

Author:  Still Lit [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:39 pm ]
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JackLambert58 wrote:
I've been listening to John Coltrane the Prestige Recordings. Some of the best jazz ever composed there.

Love Ron Carter and Freddie Hubbard.

In no particular order

John Coltrane
Charlie Parker
Miles Davis (pre-fusion)
Duke Ellington
David Sanborn
Billie Holiday (best ever version of Autumn in New York)
Benny Goodman
Dizzy Gillespie
Coleman Hawkins


Bye Bye Blackbird is wonderful. I tend toward the classic quartet Impulse recordings.


Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:24 pm ]
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Holy shit, Speak No Evil is one of my favorites and I play it all the time. That's a 10/10 album. And I think a great gateway drug album (unlike Ornette Coleman for example) to turn people onto jazz.

Anything from that era and those cats...Herbie Hancock Maiden Voyage comes to mind. The Trane album with Johnny Hartman is underrated.

I also love Herbie Hancock's seventies albums.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gASrJ6ufbSc&index=1&list=PL-jeiv1rp3YLLT3iK8B7nZcjTGP5vSmGu[/youtube]

Funkier than any hip hop today.

Pretty much anything by Bill Evans. Look at this video of him in Helsinki. Great band, great crib, great crowd:



You don't hear people taking this way about music anymore.

Going back further in time, it's hard to beat Coleman Hawkins:



I think his stuff in many ways is better than Bird. Feel the same about Ben Webster and Clifford Brown who are underrated.

Author:  Still Lit [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:41 pm ]
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Regarding Bill Evans, the original Trio with LaFarro (sp?) and Motian is what got me into jazz in the first place. I can't believe Scott LaFarro died SO young. His bass solos are the Platonic form. I've never heard anyone come close, not even Mingus. I think he was 26 or something when he died. In any case:

Explorations
Portrait in Jazz
Waltz for Debby

&....

the behemoth that is Sunday at the Village Vanguard are all superb. The Trio's rendition of Solar by Miles is on fire!



Skip to 3:50 is listen to Scott burn the house down.

Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:05 pm ]
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For this thread and especially for people just getting into it, I'd like to come up with a list of gateway drug albums....great but very accessible. I nominate:

1. Any Ella/Louis duet album
2. Kind of Blue...Miles
3. Either Bill Evans/Tony Bennett album
4. Headhunters...Herbie
5. Maiden Voyage....Herbie
6. Speak No Evil...Shorter
7. My Favorite Thins..Trane
8. Trane/Hartman album
9. The Jody Grind..Horace Silver
10. Moanin...Art Blakely

I'd probably pick the hard bop Jody Grind as the best overall gateway...the title track has that Austin Powers kind of vibe but they take it to an amazing level of artistry:



Starts out simple...ends up in the most insane jam ever...listen to the drums throughout...great party album

Author:  Still Lit [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:55 pm ]
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A very nice list. I'd append Grant Green's Green Street or Nigeria for the rock n' rollers. Green was a jazz guitarist. Green Street is just guitar, bass, and drums. It simmers the whole way through. Check out Green on It Ain't Necessarily So. The 3:40 mark will have you howling at the moon.


Author:  COR-TEN [ Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:28 pm ]
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You mentioned contemporary? Try Cyrus Chestnut - piano. I haven't purchased any of his music yet, but it's on my list. I heard him somewhere and he landed on my amazon wish list.

Speaking of guitar players, I love Grant Green. I know this might be obvious, but George Benson remains one of my all time favorite jazz players. George Benson Cookbook - with Lonnie Smith on organ. Or even Benson with Jack McDuff.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ULQVDY/ref ... 6FTX5JHGC0
Both of which were recorded before the infamous "On Broadway." Benson is one talented beast on guitar. Absolutely Outstanding.

And. . . Django Reinhardt is still hands down (with three fingers), one of the best all time.

And. . . for those that like the Chick Corea/ Dave Grusin/ David Sanborn - Try Freddie Hubbard [i]First Light[/i.] I never really liked the polished mix of amplified "jazz" of the late 70's early 80's ala Sandborn - he was Kenny G's predecessor. I always preferred Jaco Pastorious/ Weather Report/ or even Keith Jarrett ( Köln Concert). Either way, First Light is nicely produced and the music isn't bad. It's orchestrated but has some highlights, but don't expect anything that will rock the house.

Freddie Hubbard had the talent, but as Miles Davis said "He's too much of a pussy to be any good" - or something like that. And Miles played with Freddie. But then again, arrogant Miles pretty much insulted anyone that wasn't him.

Something a bit more traditional : Chet Baker.

Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:09 pm ]
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Forgot "How Long Has This Been Going On" with Sarah Vaughan and Oscar Peterson. Speaking of great guitarists, Joe Pass plays on that one.



This is also a very female friendly album...

Author:  stillthere [ Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:31 am ]
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i can chill to Art Pepper whenever.



Also cool he is wearing a Steelers T shirt in this clip


Author:  StillMadAtSlobber [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:59 am ]
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Thanks for the recommendations. Not my area of knowledge, I now have some good options to listen to.

We need a blues thread next. (make it a separate one).

Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:42 pm ]
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Clifford Brown and Max Roach:


Author:  Steel Drummer [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:30 am ]
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Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Clifford Brown and Max Roach:



A little smooth for my taste, but that's a sweet long solo by Max Roach. Thanks to RS for posting this.

Author:  Still Lit [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:56 am ]
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COR-TEN wrote:
Freddie Hubbard had the talent, but as Miles Davis said "He's too much of a pussy to be any good" - or something like that. And Miles played with Freddie. But then again, arrogant Miles pretty much insulted anyone that wasn't him.


Not true. I don't know if apocryphal or not, but Miles reportedly once said of Bill Evans that Evans was the only white guy he ever knew that wasn't racist. :lol:

Here's a trumpeter that payed with balls. Lee Morgan. Shot dead while playing on stage, too. The original Dimebag Darrell.


Author:  COR-TEN [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:06 pm ]
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Still Lit wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Freddie Hubbard had the talent, but as Miles Davis said "He's too much of a pussy to be any good" - or something like that. And Miles played with Freddie. But then again, arrogant Miles pretty much insulted anyone that wasn't him.


Not true. I don't know if apocryphal or not, but Miles reportedly once said of Bill Evans that Evans was the only white guy he ever knew that wasn't racist. :lol:

Here's a trumpeter that payed with balls. Lee Morgan. Shot dead while playing on stage, too. The original Dimebag Darrell.


Every interview, video or written, that I've seen or read was oozing with arrogance and snide remarks about his peers. Much of which was made tongue and cheek, but you can't deny Miles wasn't an arrogant SOB. He like to put on that persona.

My comment might have been a bit hyperbolic, though.

Bix Beiderbecke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xo47zs ... freload=10

I can't seem to get the embed to work.

Author:  Still Lit [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:39 pm ]
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COR-TEN wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Freddie Hubbard had the talent, but as Miles Davis said "He's too much of a pussy to be any good" - or something like that. And Miles played with Freddie. But then again, arrogant Miles pretty much insulted anyone that wasn't him.


Not true. I don't know if apocryphal or not, but Miles reportedly once said of Bill Evans that Evans was the only white guy he ever knew that wasn't racist. :lol:

Here's a trumpeter that payed with balls. Lee Morgan. Shot dead while playing on stage, too. The original Dimebag Darrell.


Every interview, video or written, that I've seen or read was oozing with arrogance and snide remarks about his peers. Much of which was made tongue and cheek, but you can't deny Miles wasn't an arrogant SOB. He like to put on that persona.

My comment might have been a bit hyperbolic, though.

Bix Beiderbecke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xo47zs ... freload=10

I can't seem to get the embed to work.


No, I'm quite sure that Miles was as big a dick as James Brown. And Brown was a major asshole.

Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:55 pm ]
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I read Miles autobiog and he was quite a dick even by his own admission. BTW grew up with some money as his dad was a well off dentist.

In his book he did say a lot of nice things about the arranger Gil Evans and did not consider him a racist.

Sketches of Spain is a great "fake jazz" album. Fake jazz meaning arranged but with jazz idioms. Like of like Henry Mancini. Nothing wrong with fake jazz tho. Steely Dan is essentially fake jazz and Donald Fagen admitted this.


Author:  stillthere [ Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:06 pm ]
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HORACE SILVER, Blowin' The Blues Away


Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:41 am ]
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Love Horace Silver.

Jeep's Blues by Duke:



WHO STARTS A SONG LIKE THAT?



BTW Beginnings by Chicago a great track too...

Author:  COR-TEN [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:54 pm ]
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So what's the trick to embedding?

Author:  superk [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:39 pm ]
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I liked Dan Smith's album.....

Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:23 pm ]
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New avant garde discovery for me tho these guys have been around for a while:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9gtXcMH94c&ab_channel=AndrewTyler[/youtube]

Author:  JPPT1974 [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:17 am ]
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I like Jack Johnson a lot! Got two of his CD's.

Author:  Dan Smith--BYU [ Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:12 pm ]
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Stumbled on this great vocalese take by Jon Hendricks from 1990. He (Coltrane) and Bobby McFerrin (Wyn Kelly) and Al Jarreau (Davis) and George Benson (Adderly) basically do note for note vocal improvisations from Miles Davis' original Freddie Freeloader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FaMtXw ... caavallone

Author:  Still Lit [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:47 pm ]
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I've owned Wayne Shorter's Speak No Evil, Ju Ju, and some others for years. Finally got around to plunking down the dollars for the recent Blue Note reissue of Night Dreamer on LP. Pure jazz fire.

Shorter on sax
Lee Morgan on trumpet
Elvin Jones on drums
McCoy Tyner on piano
Reggie Workman on bass

Buy without delay.

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