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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:48 pm 
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Meh. Hard Wired is alright. Possibly rivals the black LP from 91. Still nothing and a mere shadow compared to anything prior to the Black lp. I won't be buying it.

Surprised none of the "metal heads" mentioned Mastodon in this thread. Those guys kicked serious ass for a good while.


I'm not attacking you in any way, but I've never really understood that argument. Those albums were written when they were young and at a different point in life. Asking them to duplicate that in their 50's seems like a real stretch. I thought they've really brought that thrash element back to their sound though.

I saw Mastodon a few years ago and wasn't really impressed with them. I mean, they sounded good, but didn't really wow me. Lamb of God has always put on a great show. Slayer is probably one of the best live bands I've seen. Motorhead and Anthrax were great as well.

I am pretty excited about Sepultura coming out with a new album. That's a band I really want to see live.


I don't know about Mastodon live, but their first few lps were epic.

Regarding Metallica, they can damn well do whateve the hootenanny they want! They earned it. But as far as I am concerned, the Black LP was the beginning of the end. The new record does nothing to change my opinion, though it seems much better than most of the dross following the black lp.

It's not my fault Metallica started out by making four of the best metal lps of all time. Hard to keep that going.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:26 pm 
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Heard spit out the bone for the first time today while at work. Played on the local radio station. Meh. For long time Metallica listeners you would have noticed a few familiar guitar/rhythm and drum lines from a few albums in this particular song. Leper Messiah, Harvester of Sorrow and Whiplash. To me I found it disappointing. Just a revisit of stuff they've already done. I expected to feel/hear an evolvement from that stuff not just repeating it. I think Metallica is tired and old. They're just not into it the same way anymore. Just a money grab anymore. If they truly loved and held passion for their name brand they'd have never done some crap like this. I believe they've over complicated their sound so much they've lost touch with what really had them as one of the big 3-4 pinnacle metal bands in the 80's. JMO

I won't be running out anytime soon to get this one either. Sad But True!


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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:47 pm 
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Different strokes.

I think it's the best thing they've done in 25 years or more. I was expecting Death Magnetic 2. These are heavy ass groove songs, especially with these Hetfield God riffs tying it all together. The only thing I find derivative is Kirk's playing, but he does some really nice stuff especially when he and Hetfield start doing the classic harmony guitar thing. This is easily Hetfield's best guitar work and vocals in a long time, especially from a creative standpoint. Lars is a pretty straight forward drummer. Mike Portnoy or Dave lombardo he's not, but he doesn't need to be. He's also better here than he's been in many years, easily since the 80's. And Rob is more visible here than on the previous album. I love the new record. I'm very pleasantly surprised.

If I have any beefs with the record it's Kirk's largely unimaginative leads that are too derivative of his own work. Another would be the excessive length of some of the songs. Some fat could've been trimmed. But even then the grooves and riffs are so good it's not tedious like the songs on St Anger or even *gasp* Justice (another overly long record the band has always hated playing live).

I also think the first single Hardwired is the worst song on the album. The rest of the album smokes that song IMO.

This album knocks Justice out of the top 4 in my book.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:35 pm 
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It leaked.

It's awesome.

First disc is amazing. Second disc suffers from a couple stinkers but everything else is solid.

Mostly like Load/Black Album on steroids but the closer "Spit Out The Bone" is right up there with the first four albums.

Overall I think it's an 8.5 or a 9/10 (but then again they're my favorite band ever so...).

Much better than Death Magnetic.


43, I appreciate your fandom but you cannot possibly tell me with a straight face or in good faith that Spit Out the Bone is "right up there" with say The Shortest Straw or the title track Master of Puppets. Real talk now. Nothing on the new LP even begins to come close to approaching Metallica's pre-1991 beastliness.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
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Different strokes.

I think it's the best thing they've done in 25 years or more. I was expecting Death Magnetic 2. These are heavy ass groove songs, especially with these Hetfield God riffs tying it all together. The only thing I find derivative is Kirk's playing, but he does some really nice stuff especially when he and Hetfield start doing the classic harmony guitar thing. This is easily Hetfield's best guitar work and vocals in a long time, especially from a creative standpoint. Lars is a pretty straight forward drummer. Mike Portnoy or Dave lombardo he's not, but he doesn't need to be. He's also better here than he's been in many years, easily since the 80's. And Rob is more visible here than on the previous album. I love the new record. I'm very pleasantly surprised.

If I have any beefs with the record it's Kirk's largely unimaginative leads that are too derivative of his own work. Another would be the excessive length of some of the songs. Some fat could've been trimmed. But even then the grooves and riffs are so good it's not tedious like the songs on St Anger or even *gasp* Justice (another overly long record the band has always hated playing live).

I also think the first single Hardwired is the worst song on the album. The rest of the album smokes that song IMO.

This album knocks Justice out of the top 4 in my book.


Murder One fucking sucks. Worst non-St. Anger song they've ever done.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:37 pm 
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fortythree wrote:
Musical taste is subjective.


To a point. We might say the same thing about food.

A 6 year old will tell you that a McDonalds hamburger tastes better than an expertly prepared steak at a fine steak house. But only a fool with limited experience in good food will agree.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
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Still Lit wrote:
I don't know about Mastodon live, but their first few lps were epic.


I first saw Mastodon in a small club in Baltimore with Dillinger Escape Plan. That was one intense show!
Previous to that Brann Dailor was on my radar from his work in Today is the Day. But honestly I couldn't really wrap my head around TiTD or the first few releases (Lifesblood + Remission) - the sound was just too chaotic for my tastes and Dailor was drumming like Billy Cobham on meth.
Now when Leviathan dropped, a Melville-inspired concept album starting with 10+ minutes of prog-and-adrenaline-fueled glory in "Hearts Alive," they had my immediate attention. I saw them on that tour w/Fear Factory in front of a hostile crowd and they leveled the place.

I've seen them a handful of times since then, the last was when they came up here w/Clutch. This last gig was kinda meh, but i'm still buying their albums.

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43, I appreciate your fandom but you cannot possibly tell me with a straight face or in good faith that Spit Out the Bone is "right up there" with say The Shortest Straw or the title track Master of Puppets. Real talk now. Nothing on the new LP even begins to come close to approaching Metallica's pre-1991 beastliness.


I gave it a good captive listen on a long car ride this past weekend. Its definitely not a bad album, but I agree w/you it falls well short of the classics. It would feel much better to me if it had come out right after the Black album. Of the new jams, "Spit out the Bone" and "Moth Unto The Flame" are probably my favorites, where Lars abandons his hamfisted blocky 4/4 telegraphed beats and just really put double-bass pedal to the metal. But about half of the album I would be hard-pressed to remember.
In the digital edition I got had some bonus tracks, including the Dio "Ronnie Rising" tribute jam they worked up, a Deep Purple and Maiden cover, and a few tracks from a show @ Rasputin music in Berkeley tacked on as a bonus.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Metallica about to release an LP that does not suck?
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Murder One fucking sucks. Worst non-St. Anger song they've ever done.


I don't mind that one. hardwired (the song) has grown on me. At this point Man Unkind is the only song I can say I really don't like on the record. And c'mon.....no way Murder One is anywhere near the level of bad that Where the Wild Things Are is.

What's your thoughts on the whole Fifth Member thing? They ruined pre-sale when they scrapped the Metclub.




As for Mastodon, I like them a lot. One of my favorite music vids on youtube is just them rehearsing in a small room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWWck7QCyo&t=1335s

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What's your thoughts on the whole Fifth Member thing? They ruined pre-sale when they scrapped the Metclub.


I hate it because it'll probably prevent me from getting front row on this tour or winning a meet and greet.

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Kirk Hammett just came from the disco. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_k63tfHBY


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