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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:06 pm 
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I don't disagree with any of the recent comments. But she does what she does very well. I'm not aware that Tony Bennett plays an instrument FWIW.

She's not Diana Krall, she's not even Elvis Costello. However, I'm not sure how well either of those would do at a SB halftime show. The one "complete" musician who probably could pull it off is Harry Connick, but the hip hop audience (ironically the most closed minded) would still be alienated.

Julliard level credentialism isn't really what it takes to make it in the pop world. And singer/performers can't be judged by the same metrics as instrumentalists.

She certainly did a better job than Thunder Thighs and the better half of Gwennyth's conscious uncoupling.

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I didn't realize her talent until she performed live on the Stern show with only a piano. None of show and poppy bullshit.

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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I didn't realize her talent until she performed live on the Stern show with only a piano. None of show and poppy bullshit.


Further, contrary to what was supposed earlier in the thread, she writes or co-writes all of her material.

However, her albums are still mindless pop-glop and I can't stand most of it. I need my pop to attain Bjork level complexity and weirdness for it to become attractive. 8-)

And make no mistake: Gaga is ripping off a whole lotta Bjork.

And what the hell, why not have Bjork do a half time show? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... _Lady_Gaga

On most of her songs she has multiple collaborators. Sometimes up to 4 and 5 others, but she does write (some) of her own material.

Who supposed she didn't?

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COR-TEN wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_Lady_Gaga

On most of her songs she has multiple collaborators. Sometimes up to 4 and 5 others, but she does write (some) of her own material.

Who supposed she didn't?


Depends on how you define musician. A straight session player has zero creativity, but amazing technical skill. A song writer may lack some of the technical ability but possess the skill to construct good songs. Gaga writes (or has a hand in) a lot of her material.

Look, she's just a pop star, as you admit. Why are you insisting on grading her against the likes of Charles fucking Mingus for the purpose of denying her the attribute of being a real musician?

Shit, come to think of it, Johnny Hartman did not play an instrument nor did he write the majority of his material by himself either. Is he just a performer and not a musician?



Should we talk opera or choral where the singers don't write a single thing they sing? No way they can hang with orchestral or symphony musicians (who also often compose nothing themselves).

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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Depends on how you define musician.
This is what I said a few comments ago. Thanks for repeating.

I didn't need to read your further diatribe littered with straw men. I did not grade her against Mingus to determine musicianship. You did.

You have your opinion, I have mine. I'm not interested in a debate that has been had ad nauseam.

Lets leave it at that, or would you rather keep trollin. . . err. . .defending her?

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She's much better than the acts over the past few years including Beyonce, Katy Perry, Coldplay, Springsteen, The Who (were great at one time) and the highly overrated "derivative" (stole James Brown's whole act) Bruno Mars.

I'm hoping they hire Mariah Carey next year for record ratings...everyone waiting to see the train wreck.

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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COR-TEN wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Depends on how you define musician.
This is what I said a few comments ago. Thanks for repeating.

I didn't need to read your further diatribe littered with straw men. I did not grade her against Mingus to determine musicianship. You did.

You have your opinion, I have mine. I'm not interested in a debate that has been had ad nauseam.

Lets leave it at that, or would you rather keep trollin. . . err. . .defending her?


Your opinion is either ridiculous or unclear. Which one is it?

Sure, it does depend on how you define musician. You didn't bother to define a musician but made the claim that she could not hang with musicians any way. Now maybe you have a good account of what it is to be a musician and you just didn't bother to state it, in which case you were being unclear. Or you do not have a good account and so you do not know what you are talking about.

The result is that either you were (1) unclear or (2) you do not know what you are talking about. Feel free to chime in and tell us which one it is.

I beg apology for the straw man, but having no idea what you think a musician is (lack of clarity) I could only guess.

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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She's much better than the acts over the past few years including Beyonce, Katy Perry, Coldplay, Springsteen, The Who (were great at one time) and the highly overrated "derivative" (stole James Brown's whole act) Bruno Mars.

I'm hoping they hire Mariah Carey next year for record ratings...everyone waiting to see the train wreck.


I vote for High on Fire. :lol:


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We should all form a hybrid band of Viking Metal, K-Pop and Trap that could unite the country during the next Super Bowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ips2mM7Zqw

All this song needs is Metallica type guitars and everyone would be happy.

Degrees from Berklee a plus, but not required.

P.S. I'm shocked by the number of views on that vid

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
We should all form a hybrid band of Viking Metal, K-Pop and Trap that could unite the country during the next Super Bowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ips2mM7Zqw

All this song needs is Metallica type guitars and everyone would be happy.

Degrees from Berklee a plus, but not required.

P.S. I'm shocked by the number of views on that vid


Couldn't finish the video. I got confused and then I started to get scared so I just aborted.

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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Still Lit wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Depends on how you define musician.
This is what I said a few comments ago. Thanks for repeating.

I didn't need to read your further diatribe littered with straw men. I did not grade her against Mingus to determine musicianship. You did.

You have your opinion, I have mine. I'm not interested in a debate that has been had ad nauseam.

Lets leave it at that, or would you rather keep trollin. . . err. . .defending her?
Your opinion is either ridiculous or unclear. Which one is it?
Apparently you've already decided that an opinion is ridiculous without even knowing what it is. That’s some dan territory right there.

Ok. Whatever.

I’ve already stated I’m not interested in debating the subject further, but you can carry on to your hearts content.

:roll: ;)

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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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Babymetal would be a great show (J-pop metal band)



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 Post subject: Re: GaGa killed it at halftime
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Wow, don't take this personally ST, but I think I'd rather watch Brady & Hoodie win 100 more Super Bowls than ever see or hear that again :o

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COR-TEN wrote:
Ok. Whatever.

I’ve already stated I’m not interested in debating the subject further, but you can carry on to your hearts content.

:roll: ;)


Sure thing, Dodger.

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Wow, don't take this personally ST, but I think I'd rather watch Brady & Hoodie win 100 more Super Bowls than ever see or hear that again :o


The Japanese are into some seriously weird shit.

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I'm into some sick shit too then. Maybe Babymetal is appealing to the same part of my brain as the Crazy 88s

Fuck I think they should hire Babymetal to do a SB and not tell anyone. What a mind fuck that would be. Add some 90s Viking metal to make it more mind blowing.

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You know how I know you guys are gay?

This thread

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Finally the long overdue J-Pop/K-Pop thread on SteelerFury.

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You know how I know you guys are gay?

This thread

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Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Finally the long overdue J-Pop/K-Pop thread on SteelerFury.


I know right

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Dear sirs:

Since the unfortunate but nonetheless predictable loss of the Pitts-borough Steelers to the New-England Rebels in the conference finals, I have felt myself piqued and dyspeptic, but as an aficionado of fine musical arts in the heavy metal and J-Pop genres, and follower of this most interesting thread, permit me to weigh in on an intersectional critical analysis of Babymetal to posit the case that they indeed represent a legitimate extension of the metal ethos.

There is indeed precedent for embrace of establishment stereotypy as a Trojan Horse to dissemble the hegemony from within. This has been most effectively embraced by Mr. Angus Young and the prodigious rock talents in the Swiftian tale "School of Rock" in which the practitioner of the metal arts embraced school boy and school girl uniforms such as those worn at Eaton, the effect being one of delicious irony.

Indeed in my younger days, when I was engrossed in the fine delectations of Bathory's Blood Fire Death and Amon Amarth's Nordic metal style, Gen. Forbes, Robert Walpole and I formed a metal trio with our own variation on this Scandinavian style, which I termed "Enlightenment Metal", basically a hybrid loud hard metal that which promoted the pursuit of happiness and paternal colonialism over typical Viking themes of rape and pillage. Our debut EP, suitably entitled "Locke and Load" featuring the hit singles, "Enlightened Conquest" and the anthemic "V for Voltaire" did indeed attract quite a cult following in the parlours of Knightsbridge and Hyde Park.

Yuimetal, Su-metal, Moametal of Babymetal may not be in the echelon of Metallica, but these Nippono-metal performers are no dilettantes as they have created a glorious upheaval in the stagnant J-Pop genre, which may in itself be seen as a critical counterforce to Western mainstream popular entertainment.

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I believe Lit is what you would call a Little Monster, in the GaGa world. You don't fuck with little monsters on the interweb.

I will say if you don't consider her a musician, then I'm lost.


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R S wrote:
I believe Lit is what you would call a Little Monster, in the GaGa world. You don't fuck with little monsters on the interweb.

I will say if you don't consider her a musician, then I'm lost.


Thanks RS...that was amazing.
I'm one that doesn't look for music to make a political statement...solve the worlds problems...have life's answers. I just want music to entertain me. Me make happy...bring me to tears...inspire me to dance...sing along in my truck...bring me to that deep state of melancholy.
The downside of Super Bowl LI was another Pats Lombardi. The upside was enlightening me to the awesomeness of Lady GaGa!

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Jobus Rum wrote:
I'm one that doesn't look for music to make a political statement...solve the worlds problems...have life's answers. I just want music to entertain me. Me make happy...bring me to tears...inspire me to dance...sing along in my truck...bring me to that deep state of melancholy.


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