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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:53 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
It has to do with substitutions and occasionally, ball placement. If the offense makes substitutions, the defense is allowed to make counter substitutions while the officials hold up play. If those defensive substitutions or an officials huddle/conference take extra time, generally they will reset the play clock.

However, there is some leeway, and therefore it wouldn't surprise me if Brady gets a new play clock over much less than does Matt Moore.
How is it that the QB makes that call? Shouldn't it be the HC, like a challenge flag or such?

Either way, the play clock is a vital piece of football. Time is your enemy, and when the opposing QB can call for more time so he can read the play (or otherwise give your guys an extra 20 seconds to catch their breath), run motions, and set a rhythm, it just doesn't seem fair.

Again, I call for an ombudsman of sorts - not employed by the NFL - to review and interpret calls in real time. In the two instances I saw, Brady needed more time, guys were lazy in getting back to the huddle, and didn't have time to either read the play or run motions to get players off the line in more opportune areas along the LOS. Having said that, I have no idea if others employ the same tactic or is a non story.

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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
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other teams do it and are granted the 25 sec... it's more notable when they don't-- I remember Ben not getting it once last year... could have been at Foxboro.

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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
other teams do it and are granted the 25 sec... it's more notable when they don't-- I remember Ben not getting it once last year... could have been at Foxboro.


Does Brady only get the extra time at home or does he get it on the road too?


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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
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Rocky Mtn Stiller wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
other teams do it and are granted the 25 sec... it's more notable when they don't-- I remember Ben not getting it once last year... could have been at Foxboro.


Does Brady only get the extra time at home or does he get it on the road too?

happens all the time, all over the league

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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Rocky Mtn Stiller wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
other teams do it and are granted the 25 sec... it's more notable when they don't-- I remember Ben not getting it once last year... could have been at Foxboro.


Does Brady only get the extra time at home or does he get it on the road too?

happens all the time, all over the league


Agreed- this is much ado about nothing


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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:38 pm 
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At Denver Sunday, should be near high of 26 at KO, in the teens 2nd half. No Gronk, a D that can snap someone's cold ligament. Whiskey for the men, beer for the horses. Go Broncos.


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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
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Old School Steeler wrote:
At Denver Sunday, should be near high of 26 at KO, in the teens 2nd half. No Gronk, a D that can snap someone's cold ligament. Whiskey for the men, beer for the horses. Go Broncos.

no no no

we root for NE. Much as it pains me... unless you think NE can lose all three remaining games.

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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Old School Steeler wrote:
At Denver Sunday, should be near high of 26 at KO, in the teens 2nd half. No Gronk, a D that can snap someone's cold ligament. Whiskey for the men, beer for the horses. Go Broncos.

no no no

we root for NE. Much as it pains me... unless you think NE can lose all three remaining games.


Strictly from a ligament perspective. Last best shot to ease our path if the road to the SB runs through Cheat town.


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 Post subject: Re: More Patriots shadieness?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:24 pm 
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I see. :ugeek:

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