There are. I’m not saying no one will play football. What I meant is that the quality of play is going to decline greatly, and I think people will begin to turn their attention elsewhere as more and more top athletes gravitate elsewhere. If the NFL drops to the level of boxing and racing, that would be a huge fall for the NFL.

But assuming it's a long-term, cumulative thing, that's not really a controlled test group. If football ruins a guy's brain, do you think he's going to be entirely forthcoming about his potentially contributory PED use and lifestyle choices, or do you think he's going to want to put all the blame on football?

What makes this so difficult is a lot of this is self-fulfilling in they're generally only getting volunteers with suspected issues, and generally only from the NFL. A couple hundred cases out of 30k+ former players might not be statistically significant vs. the general population given the inherit selection bias, especially when you control for other factors.

I believe the NFL has a problem and the issue is real. I'm just not sure football itself is the determinant or causal factor.

You may not have as many freakish athletes, but less athletic players can still play the game as well and fundamentally sound. And lesser athletes are going to look more athletic going against similar lesser athletes.

I doubt it. NFL talent im guessing is 90% black players who are coming from mostly huge economic disparity. I think its seen as a way out largely

Wealthy people arent going to stop using poor people to do the dirty work anytime soon.

Poor people arent going to stop jumping at a chance to escape poverty.. The nfl will be just fine that regard.

Suburban school age football will take a severe hit probably.

Really wont change the nfl much

The talent level and participation are interesting angles. But come on the main thing here (for the NFL) is viewership.

NFLs conduct policy and pink month are testaments that public opinion is very important. The real story is advertising (and merchandising).

bingo

I would like to see some studies on long term impact of heavy PED use

Dolphins ILB Maualuga is Out and they are could have used Timmons this week but they suspended him indefinitely. I would just play him if he wants to play and defer the suspension until it's hashed out.

But let's be Honest. This is about Money now. The Dolphins will do everything they can to Not pay Timmons his guaranteed money.

I pretty much assume that all football players at all levels have some CTE. Probably most adults who played any sport. How many times did we have our bell rung on the playground. CTE might be common with a range from no symptoms to heavy symptoms.

The latest word is Timmons was depressed and wanted to see his newborn baby. But he's feeling better now.
https://chopchat.com/2017/09/22/fsu-alu ... -nfl-game/

Is that you Rashaard?

It's quite a stretch to equate playing in the NFL to doing the "dirty work".

Wwe would be a good place to start