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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:20 am 
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Funny, someone here was telling me just the other day BSPN was doing fine....I think it was Corten.
That's a bald face lie.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:31 am 
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It's a good thing Kodiak and 955876 will be dead when the federal law mandating a universal income is passed after the robots have replaced most human labor within the next 100 years.

Some of you think the Wealth of Nations and the Communist Manifesto are the polar documents of modernity. You're wrong. The real document of modernity is Descartes' Discourse. The goal of modernity is not to make money. The goal of modernity is to master and control nature for human benefit and, as Descartes puts it, free us up to do as we wish. If we think dishwashers and agricultural technology afforded us more leisure, we ain't seen nothing yet.

Capitalism vs Socialism is moot.

Automation is rapidly expanding. AI is coming. There will not be enough jobs to go around. Universal income is coming. Even the financial analyst will go by wayside when the algorithms and AI advance far enough.

Work has defined who we are in the West since the collapse of feudalism. That era is on the verge of ending.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:13 am 
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Still Lit wrote:
It's a good thing Kodiak and 955876 will be dead when the federal law mandating a universal income is passed after the robots have replaced most human labor within the next 100 years.

Some of you think the Wealth of Nations and the Communist Manifesto are the polar documents of modernity. You're wrong. The real document of modernity is Descartes' Discourse. The goal of modernity is not to make money. The goal of modernity is to master and control nature for human benefit and, as Descartes puts it, free us up to do as we wish. If we think dishwashers and agricultural technology afforded us more leisure, we ain't seen nothing yet.

Capitalism vs Socialism is moot.

Automation is rapidly expanding. AI is coming. There will not be enough jobs to go around. Universal income is coming. Even the financial analyst will go by wayside when the algorithms and AI advance far enough.

Work has defined who we are in the West since the collapse of feudalism. That era is on the verge of ending.


Nice Story...lol.. I cant wait to lounge around in my Den and have some AI sucking my schlong all day and have every worry washed away...

I do believe that technology will help and things will get easier.. however AI is not going to take over and do every job..

There will be wars, Plauge or something that fucks us up long before we have a hottie AI taking care of our every need..

and do you really beleive that there will be a world paycheck equal for everyone.. ya ok.. Just look at how just our goverment works.. hell they cant even get the VA right for our vets.. do you think they can run this without corruption..


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:31 am 
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Tundralag wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
It's a good thing Kodiak and 955876 will be dead when the federal law mandating a universal income is passed after the robots have replaced most human labor within the next 100 years.

Some of you think the Wealth of Nations and the Communist Manifesto are the polar documents of modernity. You're wrong. The real document of modernity is Descartes' Discourse. The goal of modernity is not to make money. The goal of modernity is to master and control nature for human benefit and, as Descartes puts it, free us up to do as we wish. If we think dishwashers and agricultural technology afforded us more leisure, we ain't seen nothing yet.

Capitalism vs Socialism is moot.

Automation is rapidly expanding. AI is coming. There will not be enough jobs to go around. Universal income is coming. Even the financial analyst will go by wayside when the algorithms and AI advance far enough.

Work has defined who we are in the West since the collapse of feudalism. That era is on the verge of ending.


Nice Story...lol.. I cant wait to lounge around in my Den and have some AI sucking my schlong all day and have every worry washed away...

I do believe that technology will help and things will get easier.. however AI is not going to take over and do every job..

There will be wars, Plauge or something that fucks us up long before we have a hottie AI taking care of our every need..

and do you really beleive that there will be a world paycheck equal for everyone.. ya ok.. Just look at how just our goverment works.. hell they cant even get the VA right for our vets.. do you think they can run this without corruption..


(1) You're old. You'll be dead. So you'll have to continue to suck your own dick for now. Sorry.
(2) We are probably a 100 years away. If it is longer, whatever. It's coming.
(3) A universal basic income will be necessary if there are not enough jobs to go around, which pervasive automation will likely bring to pass. All low skill jobs are going to go to robots. Have a gander: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2 ... /88066514/
High skill jobs that involve the use of algorithms will no doubt eventually be run by computer programs.
I did not say all jobs would go away. But enough will go away that there will be people without work.
(4) Most of silicon valley supposes UBI (universal basic income) is going to be necessary. They pimp this primarily as PR to reduce fear about the expansion of automation.
(5) You possibly presume I look upon such an outcome as desirable. I do not. I find it quite scary. It will redefine how we look at ourselves in way not seen since the breakdown of feudalism.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:46 am 
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Still Lit wrote:
It's a good thing Kodiak and 955876 will be dead when the federal law mandating a universal income is passed after the robots have replaced most human labor within the next 100 years.

Some of you think the Wealth of Nations and the Communist Manifesto are the polar documents of modernity. You're wrong. The real document of modernity is Descartes' Discourse. The goal of modernity is not to make money. The goal of modernity is to master and control nature for human benefit and, as Descartes puts it, free us up to do as we wish. If we think dishwashers and agricultural technology afforded us more leisure, we ain't seen nothing yet.

Capitalism vs Socialism is moot.

Automation is rapidly expanding. AI is coming. There will not be enough jobs to go around. Universal income is coming. Even the financial analyst will go by wayside when the algorithms and AI advance far enough.

Work has defined who we are in the West since the collapse of feudalism. That era is on the verge of ending.


You need to lay off the drugs. Some of your points have merit but this is highway insanity

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:54 am 
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
It's a good thing Kodiak and 955876 will be dead when the federal law mandating a universal income is passed after the robots have replaced most human labor within the next 100 years.

Some of you think the Wealth of Nations and the Communist Manifesto are the polar documents of modernity. You're wrong. The real document of modernity is Descartes' Discourse. The goal of modernity is not to make money. The goal of modernity is to master and control nature for human benefit and, as Descartes puts it, free us up to do as we wish. If we think dishwashers and agricultural technology afforded us more leisure, we ain't seen nothing yet.

Capitalism vs Socialism is moot.

Automation is rapidly expanding. AI is coming. There will not be enough jobs to go around. Universal income is coming. Even the financial analyst will go by wayside when the algorithms and AI advance far enough.

Work has defined who we are in the West since the collapse of feudalism. That era is on the verge of ending.


You need to lay off the drugs. Some of your points have merit but this is highway insanity


Uh hunh. This coming from site's premier conspiracy theorist.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:35 pm 
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What conspiracy theories have I floated that are incorrect?

Ease off the acid Lit

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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There may be a universal income, but it will be in the form of govt work doing a census on robot workers.

It will be really interesting to see how wealth, in a world of finite resources, is distributed when most jobs are done by robots. I'd imagine the rich and elite will be mostly politicians.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:45 pm 
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While Lit’s post was an extreme example, it’s not unreasonable.

McDonalds CEO was answering questions in regards to the minimum wage issue and said they have the tech right now to run an entire restaurant with but 1-2 employees. And deliver a better product in the process.

Said the only reason they don’t is the public backlash they’d face after laying off a large % of their workforce.

Like most things, the answer is likely somewhere in the middle.

I worry myself if I can get another 20 years out of my job before I’m deemed unnecessary. I’m not even sure if it’s only 10 years.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:55 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
Funny, someone here was telling me just the other day BSPN was doing fine....I think it was Corten.
That's a bald face lie.



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I get a kick out of you free market proponents and business guys complain about advertising and capitalism ....


OOOOOOORRRRRRR we simply take our business elsewhere, which might partially explain why the likes of ESPN and SI are struggling so badly. Nowhere did anyone call for the govt to regulate that crap off the page.

Yep, free markets at their finest.
I never called for gov regulation. Granted, I'm not following sports organizations financials, but show me how ESPN and SI are struggling. Besides, markets are at their best when they move at a snails pace. Meanwhile, look at the loss of "productivity" at best over the course of the last few dozen decades.


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