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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:10 pm 
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I’m sure CNN is allowed to broadcast in Canada though right?

The same CNN that’s had to retract stories they ran that were highly false. The same CNN that’s been outed as straight making up stuff to fit its agenda.

I hear the Fox accusation often. Funny thing is though, when challenged to cite what “fake news” is being spouted people can’t.

My Fast & Furious News wasn’t fake. I provided the background. You can look up he rest if you choose.

In the future though, I’d appreciate you not lumping me in with “old stupid viewers” and “conspiracy theories” when you didn’t even bother to take the time to see if I was full of shit or not.

In this instance, I was the one providing facts and you lazily resorted to liberal talking points.

You can do better than that.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:40 pm 
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I confess I had heard mention of Operation Fast and Furious, but knew next to nothing about it. So I read this:

http://swampland.time.com/2012/09/20/fast-and-furious-ig-report-destroys-right-wing-conspiracy-theories/

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What none on the right are admitting is that Horowitz’s report systematically reveals how irresponsible and speculative the accusations from their side have been. The report criticizes Holder’s Criminal Division chief Lanny Breuer for failing to inform Holder or his deputy that “gun walking” had taken place in the Bush administration in another case in Arizona called “Wide Receiver”. But the report shows that Breuer knew nothing about gun walking in Fast and Furious, and that therefore the scandal existed three levels below Holder (let alone the White House).


Huh. Gun walking started under the Bush administration. Did Fox News mention that?

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Horowitz destroys the conspiracy theories on both sides of the aisle over 471-pages, but it’s the right wing screamers who come out looking worst. Horowitz shows definitively that the Arizona ATF agents and prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s office there were responsible for the operation, not the White House or the Justice Department in Washington and that the primary source of the inaccurate testimony given to Congress was the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, Dennis Burke.


Fascinating.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:46 pm 
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955876 wrote:
I’m sure CNN is allowed to broadcast in Canada though right?

The same CNN that’s had to retract stories they ran that were highly false. The same CNN that’s been outed as straight making up stuff to fit its agenda.

I hear the Fox accusation often. Funny thing is though, when challenged to cite what “fake news” is being spouted people can’t.

My Fast & Furious News wasn’t fake. I provided the background. You can look up he rest if you choose.

In the future though, I’d appreciate you not lumping me in with “old stupid viewers” and “conspiracy theories” when you didn’t even bother to take the time to see if I was full of shit or not.

In this instance, I was the one providing facts and you lazily resorted to liberal talking points.

You can do better than that.


In the face of a $4 trillion dollar budget, no, $40 billion dollars doesn't seem like much to me, although I'm sure it's appreciated by those who receive it. I believe your point was that because we are spending such a vast amount of money on others, we don't have the money to take care of our own. Sorry if I think that out of a $4 trillion budget we should have plenty of money to take care of our own even after spending $40 billion dollars on others.

I give up. Who is receiving Social Security without paying into it?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:46 pm 
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955876 wrote:
I’m sure CNN is allowed to broadcast in Canada though right?

The same CNN that’s had to retract stories they ran that were highly false. The same CNN that’s been outed as straight making up stuff to fit its agenda.

I hear the Fox accusation often. Funny thing is though, when challenged to cite what “fake news” is being spouted people can’t.

My Fast & Furious News wasn’t fake. I provided the background. You can look up he rest if you choose.

In the future though, I’d appreciate you not lumping me in with “old stupid viewers” and “conspiracy theories” when you didn’t even bother to take the time to see if I was full of shit or not.

In this instance, I was the one providing facts and you lazily resorted to liberal talking points.

You can do better than that.


There are many many examples of Fox lies (see Seth Rich conspiracy for one of many) however recently I am not sure if you have heard but they have said countless times that there is zero evidence of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. Zero evidence. But there kinda is lots of evidence and more and more coming daily about people on the campaign kinda, sorta trying to connect with Russian peeps to cut quid pro quo's. Just a little bit here and there. See Manafort see Donny Jr, see Page etc.

Please save your canned response, I know you will check your talking points and like a good parrot spew them out. Just trying to help you fella's see the light.

Regards form a socialist utopia


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:51 pm 
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BTW Stinger, your claim ability Fox banned in Canada isn’t really true.

https://www.snopes.com/politics/business/foxcanada.asp


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:53 pm 
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Poltargyst wrote:
I confess I had heard mention of Operation Fast and Furious, but knew next to nothing about it. So I read this:

http://swampland.time.com/2012/09/20/fast-and-furious-ig-report-destroys-right-wing-conspiracy-theories/

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What none on the right are admitting is that Horowitz’s report systematically reveals how irresponsible and speculative the accusations from their side have been. The report criticizes Holder’s Criminal Division chief Lanny Breuer for failing to inform Holder or his deputy that “gun walking” had taken place in the Bush administration in another case in Arizona called “Wide Receiver”. But the report shows that Breuer knew nothing about gun walking in Fast and Furious, and that therefore the scandal existed three levels below Holder (let alone the White House).


Huh. Gun walking started under the Bush administration. Did Fox News mention that?

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Horowitz destroys the conspiracy theories on both sides of the aisle over 471-pages, but it’s the right wing screamers who come out looking worst. Horowitz shows definitively that the Arizona ATF agents and prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s office there were responsible for the operation, not the White House or the Justice Department in Washington and that the primary source of the inaccurate testimony given to Congress was the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, Dennis Burke.


Fascinating.


Yet Holder was held in contempt for lying and Obama invoked “executive privilege” cuz he ummm had nothing to hide.

I’ll address the differences between Bush operation and Holders.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:57 pm 
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Stinger8 wrote:
955876 wrote:
I’m sure CNN is allowed to broadcast in Canada though right?

The same CNN that’s had to retract stories they ran that were highly false. The same CNN that’s been outed as straight making up stuff to fit its agenda.

I hear the Fox accusation often. Funny thing is though, when challenged to cite what “fake news” is being spouted people can’t.

My Fast & Furious News wasn’t fake. I provided the background. You can look up he rest if you choose.

In the future though, I’d appreciate you not lumping me in with “old stupid viewers” and “conspiracy theories” when you didn’t even bother to take the time to see if I was full of shit or not.

In this instance, I was the one providing facts and you lazily resorted to liberal talking points.

You can do better than that.


There are many many examples of Fox lies (see Seth Rich conspiracy for one of many) however recently I am not sure if you have heard but they have said countless times that there is zero evidence of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. Zero evidence. But there kinda is lots of evidence and more and more coming daily about people on the campaign kinda, sorta trying to connect with Russian peeps to cut quid pro quo's. Just a little bit here and there. See Manafort see Donny Jr, see Page etc.

Please save your canned response, I know you will check your talking points and like a good parrot spew them out. Just trying to help you fella's see the light.

Regards form a socialist utopia


Russia again? The bogus witch hunt by Mueller? Other than saying the word collusion what actual collusion has there been evidence of? Actual collusion now. Not just cuz CNN said. Money paid for a benefit received. Real collusion. Tied to Trump. Not something Manafort did prior to campaign.

And I suppose you’ve been ignoring the real story about what the DNC was doing on he campaign. More conspiracy right? It’s all just a “vast right wing conspiracy” huh? Just like the cum on Monica’s dress.

Funny how just the mention of collusion stirs up the left yet hard evidence of real crimes committed by your cherished & failed candidate are always dismissed.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:05 pm 
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.theblaze.com/news/2012/06/26/the-5-biggest-differences-between-operation-fast-and-furious-and-operation-wide-receiver/amp/

There are the differences between the Bush program and the one under Obama.

This info is also buried in the Wikipedia page I already linked but it’s buried in there.

And again, if nothing to hide, why invoke executive privilege to prevent the release or more docs?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:10 pm 
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Poltargyst wrote:
955876 wrote:
I’m sure CNN is allowed to broadcast in Canada though right?

The same CNN that’s had to retract stories they ran that were highly false. The same CNN that’s been outed as straight making up stuff to fit its agenda.

I hear the Fox accusation often. Funny thing is though, when challenged to cite what “fake news” is being spouted people can’t.

My Fast & Furious News wasn’t fake. I provided the background. You can look up he rest if you choose.

In the future though, I’d appreciate you not lumping me in with “old stupid viewers” and “conspiracy theories” when you didn’t even bother to take the time to see if I was full of shit or not.

In this instance, I was the one providing facts and you lazily resorted to liberal talking points.

You can do better than that.


In the face of a $4 trillion dollar budget, no, $40 billion dollars doesn't seem like much to me, although I'm sure it's appreciated by those who receive it. I believe your point was that because we are spending such a vast amount of money on others, we don't have the money to take care of our own. Sorry if I think that out of a $4 trillion budget we should have plenty of money to take care of our own even after spending $40 billion dollars on others.

I give up. Who is receiving Social Security without paying into it?


You quoted me then talked about something different. What you quoted was for Stinger.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:29 pm 
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Horowitz destroys the conspiracy theories on both sides of the aisle over 471-pages, but it’s the right wing screamers who come out looking worst. Horowitz shows definitively that the Arizona ATF agents and prosecutors in the U.S. Attorney’s office there were responsible for the operation, not the White House or the Justice Department in Washington and that the primary source of the inaccurate testimony given to Congress was the U.S. Attorney for Arizona, Dennis Burke.


I suppose you believe Comey’s shameful “investigation” of the email issue was on the up & up too...


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