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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood is creatively bankrupt
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:49 pm 
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Looks like a couple decent Sci-Fi movies coming out this year..

Life and God Particle, which I believe will be Cloverfield 2.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:23 pm 
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Speaking of Luca Brasi, time for Tarantino to take a stab at an Italian mob movie.

In the book Godfather, there's a subplot about a Sicilian family that was too vicious even for the American mobs. They made their living in America as hostages during Mafia meetings. This is right up his alley.

http://godfather.wikia.com/wiki/Bocchicchio_clan

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood is creatively bankrupt
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Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/heres-your-first-official-look-at-the-oceans-8-crew-including-sandra-bullock-cate-blanchett-and-rihanna-125840434.html

A reboot of a remake of a not very good 1961 movie. (Sorry, Frank, even Jilly agrees.)

Guess they didn't learn anything from Ghostbusters? Who the hell greenlighted that?

Everything is recycled and what is not is comic book level crap.

With the exception of certain creative projects like La La Land which was good, not great, and certainly not West Side Story or Singin in the Rain or even Les Miz.

I think the occasional great TV series like Breaking Bad or Black Mirror or Silicon Valley are killing movies.

To risk sounding Trumpian-- this is almost 100% about China. The US box office numbers are staggering off a cliff, while the total of all other countries in the world excluding US & China is holding pretty steady with some growth here and there. China box office is around 10 times what it was 5-7 years ago. So. Hollywood makes movies with universal jokes (farts and crapping one's pants and the underling's making fun of superiors), fancy cgi and pictures, and broad themes that can be understood and not lost in translation. Making films like that has the side benefits of being palatable to undereducated and simplistic thinking American people AND it provides incredible cross-marketing and merchandising revenue streams. Most of those Chinese have never seen classic American films, so remaking them is a no-brainer.

Personally, I can't think of worse movies to make, but it does create a lot of jobs.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/heres-your-first-official-look-at-the-oceans-8-crew-including-sandra-bullock-cate-blanchett-and-rihanna-125840434.html

A reboot of a remake of a not very good 1961 movie. (Sorry, Frank, even Jilly agrees.)

Guess they didn't learn anything from Ghostbusters? Who the hell greenlighted that?

Everything is recycled and what is not is comic book level crap.

With the exception of certain creative projects like La La Land which was good, not great, and certainly not West Side Story or Singin in the Rain or even Les Miz.

I think the occasional great TV series like Breaking Bad or Black Mirror or Silicon Valley are killing movies.

To risk sounding Trumpian-- this is almost 100% about China. The US box office numbers are staggering off a cliff, while the total of all other countries in the world excluding US & China is holding pretty steady with some growth here and there. China box office is around 10 times what it was 5-7 years ago. So. Hollywood makes movies with universal jokes (farts and crapping one's pants and the underling's making fun of superiors), fancy cgi and pictures, and broad themes that can be understood and not lost in translation. Making films like that has the side benefits of being palatable to undereducated and simplistic thinking American people AND it provides incredible cross-marketing and merchandising revenue streams. Most of those Chinese have never seen classic American films, so remaking them is a no-brainer.

Personally, I can't think of worse movies to make, but it does create a lot of jobs.


So what's the excuse of the remakes being all women? I'm expecting Jane Bond 007 anytime now.

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The excuse for the feminist remakes is that too many studio executives are angry middle aged women...the worst demographic for a sense of humor or even style.

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Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
The excuse for the feminist remakes is that too many studio executives are angry middle aged women...the worst demographic for a sense of humor or even style.


In their defense, dealing with screaming toddlers and angsty teenage children tends to reorder priorities. If I were a middle aged mother, I'd probably enjoy the fantasy.

I wonder how outraged we'd be if Thelma and Louise were remade with men in the leading roles. Probably not nearly as much.

That said, most of the remakes are tragedies. I'm still angry about the Total Recall do-over. Unforgivable!

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Still Lit wrote:
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
The excuse for the feminist remakes is that too many studio executives are angry middle aged women...the worst demographic for a sense of humor or even style.


In their defense, dealing with screaming toddlers and angsty teenage children tends to reorder priorities. If I were a middle aged mother, I'd probably enjoy the fantasy.

I wonder how outraged we'd be if Thelma and Louise were remade with men in the leading roles. Probably not nearly as much.

That said, most of the remakes are tragedies. I'm still angry about the Total Recall do-over. Unforgivable!


If that happened, you bet your ass jezebel or whatever other woman online rags would be bitching up a storm. It's not happening though.


BTW, I watched the movie Passengers on Kodi the other day. I was actually entertained. I saw it got shit reviews but i liked it. Don't pay to watch it, but for free I liked it ok.

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Still Lit wrote:
In their defense, dealing with screaming toddlers and angsty teenage children tends to reorder priorities. If I were a middle aged mother, I'd probably enjoy the fantasy.
And you entertain and legitimize a baseless, sexist, ignorant, narrow minded, infantile, misogynistic comment with a response?

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood is creatively bankrupt
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R S wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
The excuse for the feminist remakes is that too many studio executives are angry middle aged women...the worst demographic for a sense of humor or even style.


In their defense, dealing with screaming toddlers and angsty teenage children tends to reorder priorities. If I were a middle aged mother, I'd probably enjoy the fantasy.

I wonder how outraged we'd be if Thelma and Louise were remade with men in the leading roles. Probably not nearly as much.

That said, most of the remakes are tragedies. I'm still angry about the Total Recall do-over. Unforgivable!


If that happened, you bet your ass jezebel or whatever other woman online rags would be bitching up a storm. It's not happening though.


BTW, I watched the movie Passengers on Kodi the other day. I was actually entertained. I saw it got shit reviews but i liked it. Don't pay to watch it, but for free I liked it ok.


I don't doubt a large number of women would complain. My point, however, is that probably a lot of the men who howled so much about the Ghostbuster remake with female leads would largely shrug their shoulders about a Thelma and Louise redo with male leads. You know, bc...

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood is creatively bankrupt
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Still Lit wrote:
I don't doubt a large number of women would complain. My point, however, is that probably a lot of the men who howled so much about the Ghostbuster remake with female leads would largely shrug their shoulders about a Thelma and Louise redo with male leads. You know, bc...
What exactly is your point? At best you are highlighting a double standard, but it's not entirely clear.

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I don't doubt a large number of women would complain. My point, however, is that probably a lot of the men who howled so much about the Ghostbuster remake with female leads would largely shrug their shoulders about a Thelma and Louise redo with male leads. You know, bc...
What exactly is your point? At best you are highlighting a double standard, but it's not entirely clear.


I don't know what his point is. I'm highlighting the need to appease one's mad up inner guilt by making movies catering and pandering to female audiences. They are destined to fail horribly, but somewhere, somebody feels good about themselves for putting it out there.

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I am big TCM fan over going to the movies anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood is creatively bankrupt
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LOL....saw a blurb that a re-make of The Matrix is in the works. I mean, c'mon, the last one was only released 14 years ago.

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R S wrote:
I don't know what his point is. I'm highlighting the need to appease one's mad up inner guilt by making movies catering and pandering to female audiences. They are destined to fail horribly, but somewhere, somebody feels good about themselves for putting it out there.
Just curious. So you don't think adolescents masquerading as men jerking themselves off in corner offices don't pander to the 18-34 year old male with smash 'em up, pointless, mind numbing, movies with scantily clad women? Or locker room juvenile humor movies with the mentality of an 8 year old aimed at the under 24 year old demographic?

RE : The Matrix. Considering the political climate, alternate 'facts," and contrived realities, it seems the Matrix narrative is ripe for exploitation. Easy script, throw some CGI money at it, and you'll have hundreds of millions of dollars in no time. Selling it to mindless, vacuous, consumer driven idiots who have been taught by free markets that they can have everything they want whenever they want it - for a price.

And in all likelihood, a shitty remake with no imagination as well.

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RE : The Matrix. Considering the political climate, alternate 'facts," and contrived realities, it seems the Matrix narrative is ripe for exploitation. Easy script, throw some CGI money at it, and you'll have hundreds of millions of dollars in no time. Selling it to mindless, vacuous, consumer driven idiots who have been taught by free markets that they can have everything they want whenever they want it - for a price.



I agree it will appeal to many who believe bigger government is the answer to "evil, greedy" corporations. But, of course, the similarities between the Matrix alternate reality and empty government promises will elude most.

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I guess with the success of the Beauty and the Beast live action reboot, we can expect Disney's creative minds will be pretty much tied up with live action reboots of everything from Snow White through their entire catalog for probably the next twenty years.

I can't say I'd argue with that if I were in charge.

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I don't really get the hand wringing over Hollywood. The major studios are no different from the major record companies. They push shit that appeals widely to make money. But the wider the appeal, the less interesting. Good film, like good music, is easily available should you go looking for it.

Hey Dan, you may find this of interest. I bought it, but have not had a chance yet to view it.

https://www.reelhouse.org/spiegel/timeremembered

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