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 Post subject: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:28 am 
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http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fu ... le/2645104

110 out of 111 brains of deceased former NFL players donated for study evinced CTE.

Let the armchair discrediting and dismissing begin!

I don't know how many will find this study convincing, but at a certain point it seems to me that the empirical evidence is going to reach an inflection point.


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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:00 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2645104

110 out of 111 brains of deceased former NFL players donated for study evinced CTE.

Let the armchair discrediting and dismissing begin!

I don't know how many will find this study convincing, but at a certain point it seems to me that the empirical evidence is going to reach an inflection point.


I don't buy it. I don't see how anyone that played in the NFL could not have a brain injury.

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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:46 pm 
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SteelPro wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2645104

110 out of 111 brains of deceased former NFL players donated for study evinced CTE.

Let the armchair discrediting and dismissing begin!

I don't know how many will find this study convincing, but at a certain point it seems to me that the empirical evidence is going to reach an inflection point.


I don't buy it. I don't see how anyone that played in the NFL could not have a brain injury.


Evinced means there WAS evidence of damage, correct?


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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:54 pm 
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Steelcody36 wrote:
SteelPro wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2645104

110 out of 111 brains of deceased former NFL players donated for study evinced CTE.

Let the armchair discrediting and dismissing begin!

I don't know how many will find this study convincing, but at a certain point it seems to me that the empirical evidence is going to reach an inflection point.


I don't buy it. I don't see how anyone that played in the NFL could not have a brain injury.


Evinced means there WAS evidence of damage, correct?


Correct. Which means one somehow didn't. Probably a kicker

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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:55 pm 
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Yes.


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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:06 am 
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The report is heavily biased in that the family members donating the brains had stated they thought their loved on had brain damage. Can they spread this out to cover boxing, MMA, soccer, and combat vets/soldiers? Basically any profession that get concussions more often than the average person.

Not saying that this wrong or bad data. CTE is caused by repeated concussions. But this particular report is heavily biased.

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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:01 am 
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jebrick wrote:
Can they spread this out to cover boxing, MMA, soccer, and combat vets/soldiers?


And I've wondered what impact PED's have as far as elevating the risk and/or severity.

But, yeah, without random sampling and control groups you can't gauge how much higher the risk is. Obviously NFL players have higher risk of CTE than office workers, but they need to quantify the increased chance of CTE and the chance it causes problems (i.e. all NFL players could have some amount of CTE, maybe grade 1-10 and only grade 10 presents significant risks).

Anyway, we're probably only 10-15 years away from our "pro athletes" being robots controlled by nerds who never played a sport in their life.

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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:52 am 
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Steelcody36 wrote:
SteelPro wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2645104

110 out of 111 brains of deceased former NFL players donated for study evinced CTE.

Let the armchair discrediting and dismissing begin!

I don't know how many will find this study convincing, but at a certain point it seems to me that the empirical evidence is going to reach an inflection point.


I don't buy it. I don't see how anyone that played in the NFL could not have a brain injury.


Evinced means there WAS evidence of damage, correct?


Correct. Which means one somehow didn't. Probably a kicker[/quote]

I didn't understand your comment. "I don't buy it". You don't buy what? Only one didn't show damage, and the study is biased. It only had families who lost a former player. They were all damaged goods. The majority don't have that damage.


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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:50 pm 
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Steelcody36 wrote:
They were all damaged goods. The majority don't have that damage.


That's not necessarily a true statement. The majority didn't show outward signs of impairment, at least not enough for the family to consent to an autopsy.

100+ players is still a lot, and there were enough issues for the family to volunteer, and those issues were confirmed. I've not heard of a large number of players in other sports having these issues.

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 Post subject: Re: 110 out 111 former player brains evince CTE
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Worth a view...

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/latest-rou ... 03329.html


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