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 Post subject: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:26 pm 
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Of course, it's too soon but it was a great draft - TJ Watt, Hines Ward clone young JuJu & most of the rest along with filling our weakness after the draft in TE & the defensive backs Haden, Hilton & hard-hitting Wilcox. Signing Villaneuva to team-friendly contract & having an agreed to contract to Bell although Bell wouldn't sign it. Although if another team gives up 2 first round picks next year to sign Bell & we can parlay them into getting a successor for Ben - wouldn't that be something. If Colbert had also filled our need of a truly capable second string qb, I'd reserve the award for him right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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He takes a lot of heat here for drafting guys who are prone to injury w narrow wrist circumference

But clearly he is doing something right

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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I hope that this team, talent wise, puts the whole Tombert can't build a championship roster arguement to rest for good.

This team is stacked. Whether they can play to potential is a question for November, when it matters.

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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VanWilder wrote:

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

I think people want the Steelers to win the super bowl so badly they demand the Steelers play at a championship level from week 1. But I don't think it's unusual for teams to need to feel their way early in a season. Lots of new pieces here. I expect the Steelers to improve as the season goes on and be playing their best football in December/January/February. We might not win a super bowl as the Steelers have played so far. Lucky for us they don't hold the super bowl in September.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Poltargyst wrote:
VanWilder wrote:

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

I think people want the Steelers to win the super bowl so badly they demand the Steelers play at a championship level from week 1. But I don't think it's unusual for teams to need to feel their way early in a season. Lots of new pieces here. I expect the Steelers to improve as the season goes on and be playing their best football in December/January/February. We might not win a super bowl as the Steelers have played so far. Lucky for us they don't hold the super bowl in September.


Posters need to read Swiss' point about suffering through games, rather than enjoying them. It's completely true, especially early in the season & playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Mike Tomlin is Les Miles.

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Mike Tomlin is Les Miles.


Which reminds me, ive been meaning to get your feedback on the latest LSU debacle from last weekend. What's the word. You staying away from sharp objects?


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Poltargyst wrote:
VanWilder wrote:

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

I think people want the Steelers to win the super bowl so badly they demand the Steelers play at a championship level from week 1. But I don't think it's unusual for teams to need to feel their way early in a season. Lots of new pieces here. I expect the Steelers to improve as the season goes on and be playing their best football in December/January/February. We might not win a super bowl as the Steelers have played so far. Lucky for us they don't hold the super bowl in September.


Agreed.

Would you rather have the '95/'05 Steelers or the '04 Steelers.

It's a long ass season. Most forget this. It's extremely difficult and pretty unrealistic to fire on all cylinder from week 1 thru SB Sunday.

Piling early season, ugly wins, as the team progresses and improves is something we should all be very excited about.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Poltargyst wrote:
VanWilder wrote:

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

I think people want the Steelers to win the super bowl so badly they demand the Steelers play at a championship level from week 1. But I don't think it's unusual for teams to need to feel their way early in a season. Lots of new pieces here. I expect the Steelers to improve as the season goes on and be playing their best football in December/January/February. We might not win a super bowl as the Steelers have played so far. Lucky for us they don't hold the super bowl in September.

If they did, Minnesota would have about 5 Lombardis.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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11-1 in last 12 :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Which reminds me, ive been meaning to get your feedback on the latest LSU debacle from last weekend. What's the word. You staying away from sharp objects?


Lack of discipline really sums it all up.

Also blaming the fact I was at a wedding and couldn't watch most of it live. The football gods were displeased. As was I.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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VanWilder wrote:
I hope that this team, talent wise, puts the whole Tombert can't build a championship roster arguement to rest for good.

This team is stacked. Whether they can play to potential is a question for November, when it matters.

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.


In a way, if they can't bring home a ring or at LEAST get to the big game with this roster, It will tell us all we need to know about coaching. I think the PS have had top 5 talented rosters the last 3 years. Time to put up. Last year I would have called a great step if they'd have at least competed with New England.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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R S wrote:
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I hope that this team, talent wise, puts the whole Tombert can't build a championship roster arguement to rest for good.

This team is stacked. Whether they can play to potential is a question for November, when it matters.

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.


In a way, if they can't bring home a ring or at LEAST get to the big game with this roster, It will tell us all we need to know about coaching. I think the PS have had top 5 talented rosters the last 3 years. Time to put up. Last year I would have called a great step if they'd have at least competed with New England.


Belichick vs Tomlin is such a mental mismatch

Sometimes your roster can't overcome stupid

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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I think we missed a bit of a window some of these recent past years when the AFC was ripe for the taking.

That tide is changing. AFC west has three teams you wouldn't want to have to face on the road in addition to our kryptonite in NE.

Home field is extremely important this year in particular as there are some teams I don't think we beat on the road but at home have a fair shot.

Games like this weekend are must wins.


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VanWilder wrote:
Poltargyst wrote:
VanWilder wrote:

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

I think people want the Steelers to win the super bowl so badly they demand the Steelers play at a championship level from week 1. But I don't think it's unusual for teams to need to feel their way early in a season. Lots of new pieces here. I expect the Steelers to improve as the season goes on and be playing their best football in December/January/February. We might not win a super bowl as the Steelers have played so far. Lucky for us they don't hold the super bowl in September.


Posters need to read Swiss' point about suffering through games, rather than enjoying them. It's completely true, especially early in the season & playoffs.


There is truth in it but it's not the whole story.

It's also true that not all coaches are equal and there is valid reason for discussion on how we approach offense.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Poltargyst wrote:
VanWilder wrote:

2-0 with warts. I'll take it without a bitch to give.

I think people want the Steelers to win the super bowl so badly they demand the Steelers play at a championship level from week 1. But I don't think it's unusual for teams to need to feel their way early in a season. Lots of new pieces here. I expect the Steelers to improve as the season goes on and be playing their best football in December/January/February. We might not win a super bowl as the Steelers have played so far. Lucky for us they don't hold the super bowl in September.


Agreed.

Would you rather have the '95/'05 Steelers or the '04 Steelers.

It's a long ass season. Most forget this. It's extremely difficult and pretty unrealistic to fire on all cylinder from week 1 thru SB Sunday.

Piling early season, ugly wins, as the team progresses and improves is something we should all be very excited about.


'95/'05 Steelers definitely. They didn't have to play the Patriots in the postseason.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.


Haley/Tomlin critics will change their position regarding offense if we are one of the highest scoring offenses in the league or if we win the SB.

This offense might be the most overrated in the league the past couple years (to this point). A LOT of hype yet we have NEVER been among the best in the league with this group of coaches and players. Kind of strange, I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.


I'm a Tomlin hater and I agree w the above

Show me you can beat Brady and I will send Tomlin a fruitcake

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Havoc wrote:
Obviously wrote:
Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.


Haley/Tomlin critics will change their position regarding offense if we are one of the highest scoring offenses in the league or if we win the SB.

It would be nice if all the weapons could eith stay healthy or stay out of trouble for an extended period of time.

This offense might be the most overrated in the league the past couple years (to this point). A LOT of hype yet we have NEVER been among the best in the league with this group of coaches and players. Kind of strange, I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.


I'm a Tomlin hater and I agree w the above

Show me you can beat Brady and I will send Tomlin a fruitcake


I don't hate the man, and like Cowher, I want him to shut me and all his critics up by beating the Patriots in the postseason and/or winning the Super Bowl .

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Obviously wrote:
Havoc wrote:
Obviously wrote:
Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.


Haley/Tomlin critics will change their position regarding offense if we are one of the highest scoring offenses in the league or if we win the SB.

It would be nice if all the weapons could eith stay healthy or stay out of trouble for an extended period of time.

This offense might be the most overrated in the league the past couple years (to this point). A LOT of hype yet we have NEVER been among the best in the league with this group of coaches and players. Kind of strange, I think.


I see what you did and yes I know.

Normally I am the guy posting saying it doesn't matter what the team looks like during the RS as long as it all comes together at the right time and we get to the tournament.

So for me to post the way I have after these first 2 wins is not normal.

I see it different this year regarding the O. The coaches and players have had years to figure this out. Too much at stake, with the Pats looming and the seeming strength of the afc this year.

Here is where I'm at... there is a lot of talent on this O. If we have our key guys this season and if we appear to underachieve... I would make 1 or 2 major changes among the staff and bring in new offensive ideas. It's possible this group can't be coached to one of the leagues best, but I would give someone else a chance. Time is ticking on this offensive personnel group we currently have.

I am hoping for best, of course. SBI


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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I see it different this year regarding the O. The coaches and players have had years to figure this out.


The triumvirate of Tomlin, Haley, and Ben are going on what, year 5 together? That's an eternity in the NFL.

Not to mention that neither Tomlin nor Haley need to worry bout the oline as thy have a more than competent position coach.

Time for this three headed monster to walk the damn walk. Enough talk aleady. Go out and do.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
11-1 in last 12 :shock:

The and 1 was so bad on so many levels that it destroys the 11.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Colbert NFL Executive Of The Year
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Obviously wrote:
Tomlin critics will shut up for a season if:

1. The Steelers beat the Patriots in the postseason or
2. The Steelers win the Super Bowl

They will shut up once and for all if the Steelers accomplish both in the same season.

Simple as that.

For me, there is no "or."

We have to beat New England and win the SB. At this point, with all of the ass beatings combined with how proud this franchise is or used to be, Winning the SB without beating NE in the playoffs is like the 1980 Olympiic hockey team winning the gold without beating the Russians.


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