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 Post subject: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:42 pm 
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Not good. Here's to another drama filled week.

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I don't think it's drama

He's a quote that's more likely to be true

Occam's razor

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Not good. Here's to another drama filled week.


when an athlete says that? he don't have it! id be getting jones ready..seriously


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:47 pm 
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I think back to what chuck noll said about when someone is thinking about retirement


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I've seen at least one account stating that this was said with a tone clearly indicating that it is in jest. So he was being snarky, thank god.

Nothing burger media will chew on.

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Still Lit wrote:
I've seen at least one account stating that this was said with a tone clearly indicating that it is in jest. So he was being snarky, thank god.

Nothing burger media will chew on.

hes still thinking it...same thing..he still sounds and playing very unconfident like..


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Still Lit wrote:
I've seen at least one account stating that this was said with a tone clearly indicating that it is in jest. So he was being snarky, thank god.

Nothing burger media will chew on.



Good.

Still, the performance throughout has been unsettling, given the "easy" part of the schedule and having your skill players available.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Listening to his post game interview right now on NFL network radio

Sounds like he's doing his usual post game after a tough day when he plays bad

Deflecting some questions, but ....All down to him playing better

Frustrating day he says

I'm sure this can be scrubbed from newspaper in a little while or th radio

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Good thing Tombert had the foresight to draft Dobbs... :?

Ben is going through the motions in a stale offense. He looks disinterested.

Add in his release looks slower. That’s why ball is getting tipped so much and he’s behind receivers.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Still Lit wrote:
I've seen at least one account stating that this was said with a tone clearly indicating that it is in jest. So he was being snarky, thank god.

Nothing burger media will chew on.


I read it as Ben taking blame like he typically does.

I also subscribe to your theory. I don't dismiss other theories about "once you start thinking about retirement...."

I still say 90% of the problem is an offense that needs the QB to be almost perfect. Like i've said before, they take shots down the field because Ben WAS one of the best QB's doing that, and it's a crutch for an offense that struggles to manufacture long scoring drives.

Keep in mind, Ben's deep ball HAS not been what it was....but his success rate is still in line with most of the league. He's missed a couple (literally like 2) and had a drop or two....but worth noting most of those throws have been highly contested.

And what's with the half-ass PA? It's the PA-version of the "muddle huddle", "slurry-up" and "pistol".

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955876 wrote:
Good thing Tombert had the foresight to draft Dobbs... :?

Ben is going through the motions in a stale offense. He looks disinterested.

Add in his release looks slower. That’s why ball is getting tipped so much and he’s behind receivers.


Looks frustrated. He's not shrugging and smiling after throwing pics.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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Ben is going through the motions in a stale offense. He looks disinterested.

Add in his release looks slower. That’s why ball is getting tipped so much and he’s behind receivers.


Disinterested, maybe. The rest I don't really see. Curious that we've seen a lot less of Ben calling the shots in no-huddle, this year.

He's had a good number of balls tipped in past seasons. But could be a result of lack of separation, which I'm saying is more about play calling/design.

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bam morris wrote:
hes still thinking it...same thing..he still sounds and playing very unconfident like..


That could be very on the nose.

Ben, under Arians, RARELY threw short of the sticks. Under Haley, he RARELY throws beyond the sticks. I've always said, if you throw short of the sticks consistently you are playing losing football.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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This is bad at this point he looks like he ready to retire.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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955876 wrote:
Good thing Tombert had the foresight to draft Dobbs... :?

Ben is going through the motions in a stale offense. He looks disinterested.

Add in his release looks slower. That’s why ball is getting tipped so much and he’s behind receivers.

Now that's an interesting speculation. I don't know if I agree but it could be.

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955876 wrote:
Good thing Tombert had the foresight to draft Dobbs... :?

Ben is going through the motions in a stale offense. He looks disinterested.

Add in his release looks slower. That’s why ball is getting tipped so much and he’s behind receivers.

Now that's an interesting speculation. I don't know if I agree but it could be.


His release today looked very timid several times, especially on the ints

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steelmann58 wrote:
This is bad at this point he looks like he ready to retire.


He looks like a good QB playing in a complete shit of an offense.

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Kodiak wrote:
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Ben is going through the motions in a stale offense. He looks disinterested.

Add in his release looks slower. That’s why ball is getting tipped so much and he’s behind receivers.


Disinterested, maybe. The rest I don't really see. Curious that we've seen a lot less of Ben calling the shots in no-huddle, this year.

He's had a good number of balls tipped in past seasons. But could be a result of lack of separation, which I'm saying is more about play calling/design.


Pay particular attention to it moving forward. Hard to say for certain. It’s just something that I felt I noticed today. Could be wrong.

Plus, A LOT of his passes are wobbly now. He’d uncork some ducks on deep passes in the past but now even the shorter ones that in the past were lasers appear wobbly & lacking velocity.

If it is in fact a factor, it’ll only get worse as the weather does.


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 Post subject: Re: Ben. "Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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This whole team fucking sucks


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ill glady eat crow. but no ben u don't have it anymore...and if he plays his new normal garbage stuff vs chiefs id put landry in the following week..i really believe benching ben could be team beneficial..as with ben hurt team seems to rise up its play all around. maybe that's what is needed. I recall bradshaw benched often and for less reason then current ben.. in fact every qb for steelers pre ben been benched ...ben is first that seems to get a free pass mo matter what he does.... perhaps its time to burst his bubble a bit. I could see ben coming in game at half after a landry jones shit show and rallying team big!


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This whole team fucking sucks


The team is a complete joke

And next week, at KC?

Wow. I actually believed they'd be good this year and challenge for a Lombardi!

But they are close to hitting rock bottom if you will. Let's tip our hat to the Jags.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben. Maybe I don't have it anymore"
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955876 wrote:
Plus, A LOT of his passes are wobbly now.


That always been the case. Ben has never thrown the tightest spirals around.

As I've said repeatedly, Haley's offense sucked until Ben started throwing the ball unbelievably well. Now we're seeing Ben throw the ball like he did in those early Haley years, and seeing similar results.

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Orangesteel wrote:
This whole team fucking sucks


No, it doesn't.

Get rid of the cuckold anchor around the offense and watch this team become what we thought they could.

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Ben is REALLY laboring throwing the ball.

Something is very wrong with him.

Used to throw effortlessly. Now it looks like he's trying to throw a bowling ball.

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