Pens vs Bolts 10-21-17

fractalsteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 pm **Posts:** 2838

If Murray does get the start I would love to hear what Sullivan said to Niemi about it.

Pens on another back to back situation but Tampa is playing their 4th game in 6 days as well.
Penguins projected lineup

Jake Guentzel -- Sidney Crosby - Conor Sheary

Bryan Rust -- Evgeni Malkin -- Phil Kessel

Carl Hagelin -- Greg McKegg -- Patric Hornqvist

Tom Kuhnhackl -- Carter Rowney -- Ryan Reaves

Brian Dumoulin -- Kris Letang

Olli Maatta -- Chad Ruhwedel

Ian Cole -- Justin Schultz

Matt Murray

Antti Niemi

Scratched: Josh Archibald, Scott Wilson, Zach Trotman

Injured: Matt Hunwick (concussion)

Ice · **Posted:** Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:11 pm

Riley Sheahan a Penguin (and a 5th round pick). Scott Wilson and a 3rd back to Detroit.

fractalsteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 pm **Posts:** 2838

Love to know what Crosby said to get the extra 10 minutes.

Great save by Niemi on the 2-0 advantage for the Bolts.

swissvale72 · **Joined:** Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:52 pm **Posts:** 7291

Pens down 6-0 last I looked....Niemi still in the net.

Orangesteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:22 am **Posts:** 8891

Niemi is awful. Make a move asap

Orangesteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:22 am **Posts:** 8891

What is his GAA???

Orangesteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:22 am **Posts:** 8891

Team defense and goaltending is a joke on this team right now. Complete joke.

Orangesteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:22 am **Posts:** 8891

Sullivan needs to crack some heads.

Niemi sucks.

Team defense is atrocious.

Come on already.

steel · **Joined:** Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 4371

Gotta dump Niemi -- he fucking blows. Don't even play the game when he is scheduled to start-- just forfeit and rest the guys if you don't bring up fucking Jarry.

Ice · **Posted:** Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:32 pm

Jarry isn't exactly setting the world on fire in WBS right now. DeSmith is actually their best goalie at the moment.

BethlehemSteel · **Joined:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:07 am **Posts:** 8350

Orangesteel wrote:

What is his GAA???

Holy shit saw his highlights again. 7.55. 16 goals in 3 games

Yea he's done

Bring up Jarry

He can't even get to the bench without falling down

The highlights last night are still like this

bam morris · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:18 pm **Posts:** 10477

cant win with goal tending like that..not saying its 100 percent him but hes sucked ass so far. giving murray a night off cant be an automatic loss like it has been so far. bring up a young guy..

Jeemie · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:34 pm **Posts:** 23270

Offense is up all over the league.

There was a great analysis that showed this was in part due to teams pushing for offense by having their guys create “unscripted offensive chances”...i.e. going away from traditional concepts and applying more offensive pressure on the goal.

Malkin’s game winner against the Rangers was an example of this. Once the Rangers got possession of the puck behind the goal, traditional play would have had Kessel and Malkin fall back.

Instead, Kessel pressured the puck, and Malkin camped by the goal on the other side.

The drawback of unscripted offense is if the play breaks down, teams may get an odd man rush the other way, but teams like the Pens think they can get away with this because their team speed lets them get back up ice if the play breaks down.

All this said...Niemi sucks ass. Cut him.

fractalsteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 pm **Posts:** 2838

Jeemie wrote:

Offense is up all over the league.

There was a great analysis that showed this was in part due to teams pushing for offense by having their guys create “unscripted offensive chances”...i.e. going away from traditional concepts and applying more offensive pressure on the goal.

Malkin’s game winner against the Rangers was an example of this. Once the Rangers got possession of the puck behind the goal, traditional play would have had Kessel and Malkin fall back.

Instead, Kessel pressured the puck, and Malkin camped by the goal on the other side.

The drawback of unscripted offense is if the play breaks down, teams may get an odd man rush the other way, but teams like the Pens think they can get away with this because their team speed lets them get back up ice if the play breaks down.

All this said...Niemi sucks ass. Cut him.

I read this article as well.
Offense is usually up to start the season. Only teams with something to prove from the prior year come out playing at full caliber.
Potash interviewed Stralman b/n periods last night. He said that the team is taking every game seriously because the Bolts missed the playoffs by one point last year. Good luck with that, it is a near impossibility to keep it at full bore.

Not worried about the Pens-like I said last week they are only playing at 75% at this juncture. And they realized the issue at Center 3 and made a move though it might take more than that.

Niemi is the current problem and surely the Pens will shore this issue up.

SteelPro · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:14 pm **Posts:** 1244

I’m not worried either. They started similarly last season. Porous defense and winning games with offense. That went on for about 25 games before they started to tighten things up defensively.

Donnie Brasco · **Joined:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:55 pm **Posts:** 4426

They'll give niemi a couple more starts to verify what they see. He can clear waivers with a minimal cap hit

Jarry will be brought up and he'll be fine, even though De Smith has been better

I don't see the Pens spending assets on a backup G this season, especially since the 3c issue may not be solved

fractalsteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 pm **Posts:** 2838

Donnie Brasco wrote:

They'll give niemi a couple more starts to verify what they see. He can clear waivers with a minimal cap hit

Jarry will be brought up and he'll be fine, even though De Smith has been better

I don't see the Pens spending assets on a backup G this season, especially since the 3c issue may not be solved

Pens play a normal schedule next week and don't have a back to back until November 2nd. So we probably won't see Niemi until then.

Suwanee88 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:50 pm **Posts:** 4452

Donnie Brasco wrote:

They'll give niemi a couple more starts to verify what they see. He can clear waivers with a minimal cap hit

Jarry will be brought up and he'll be fine, even though De Smith has been better

I don't see the Pens spending assets on a backup G this season, especially since the 3c issue may not be solved

With so much wing depth including in the minors, the re-emergence of Connor Sheary on SIDS line, the Pens need to move Jake Guentzel to 3C, move Sheahan to 4C and bring up one of these kids soon.

fractalsteel · **Joined:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:04 pm **Posts:** 2838

Suwanee88 wrote:

Donnie Brasco wrote:

They'll give niemi a couple more starts to verify what they see. He can clear waivers with a minimal cap hit

Jarry will be brought up and he'll be fine, even though De Smith has been better

I don't see the Pens spending assets on a backup G this season, especially since the 3c issue may not be solved

With so much wing depth including in the minors, the re-emergence of Connor Sheary on SIDS line, the Pens need to move Jake Guentzel to 3C, move Sheahan to 4C and bring up one of these kids soon.

Too early to move Guentzel away from Sid. Those two have a bond/chemistry that is natural.
McKegg will be a good fourth line center. His speed and effort will serve him better there.

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