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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:57 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
You're not alone there jeems. It boggles everyone's minds as it unfolds. Just stupid. IMO it's not how you instill that killer instinct. To me it's a reflection of the coordinator. Soft.


You really think the OC says Oh we have a lead so time to get conservative and protect the lead? Its the HC 100% who says attack, or call off the dogs and grind clock. I wish so very much that they canned Haley and I could hear the whining when the next guy came in and did the same stuff cause its the teams philosophy, inserted by the HC.

The whining about the OC is getting really really fuckin old. They are 5-2 and the two games they lost the defense was bitch slapped in Chicago (not under the purvey of the OC) and his QB through 5 interceptions two for pick six's BUT he is the main problem. With a btter OC we would be 7-0 :lol: :lol: Try decaffeinated for fuck sakes.

Wah wah fuckin wah.

Having said that the play design's inside the 10 yard line really blow and THAT's on Haley.

Last really creative OC I can remember was Chan Gailey(sp?).


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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:25 am 
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Romo just lost some points with suggesting Haley is as good as any coordinator in the league.

you left of the rest of that quote... "at the run game"

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:29 am 
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bam morris wrote:
our defense looked like a cinci power play with 3 man advantage.

and Antti Niemi in goal.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:37 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
bam morris wrote:
our defense looked like a cinci power play with 3 man advantage.

and Antti Niemi in goal.


Haden. Joe Haden wow. After re-watch he looked like the player Browns had in his prime. He was running step for step with receivers with no hitch at all. In first couple of games he was being protected by Steelers as it looked like he just didn't have speed he once did. Yesterday he flipped his hips with such fluid ease it was almost night and day from first few games and his pre season where he looked a shadow of who he was. Dare I say Steelers might finally have secondary to fuck with Brady. Still long way to go but with Burns and Hilton as well looks good and of course one other player has finally woken up:

Sean Davis has gotten his head out of his ass is a big time way in past 2 games. He was exceptional yesterday.

This defense is fun to watch. Haven't been able to say that since oh I dunno 2008? If offense keeps up its steady improvement this team has a real shot to do damage in Jan.


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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:38 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
One thing that still bugs me, but I’ve resigned myself to realizing it’s just the way things are.

If the Steelers have a lead at the half, sure as shit Todd Haley is going to call off the dogs and enter clock-killing mode.

Even when Haden made the pick that put the Steelers in prime field position, he stated in clock killing mode.

I don’t know why they just won’t keep attacking in the second half...especially when it’s working.


I love Tomlin, but that's coming from him. If Tomlin wanted us to keep attacking, we would.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:40 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
One thing that still bugs me, but I’ve resigned myself to realizing it’s just the way things are.

If the Steelers have a lead at the half, sure as shit Todd Haley is going to call off the dogs and enter clock-killing mode.

Even when Haden made the pick that put the Steelers in prime field position, he stated in clock killing mode.

I don’t know why they just won’t keep attacking in the second half...especially when it’s working.


I love Tomlin, but that's coming from him. If Tomlin wanted us to keep attacking, we would.


Yep bothered me a bit as well. Ben was moving the ball at will. Steelers finally attacked Bengals in middle of field and it opened up things everywhere else.


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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
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re: Romo taking shots at his broadcast team...

He was nudging them for something we ALL constantly complain about: not showing a replay on a controversial or confusing play. I get it, because he is a fan, not an automaton.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:54 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
bam morris wrote:
slow delelop run is the call..lose 2 yards as bell swarmed..

He was nudging them for something we ALL constantly complain about: not showing a replay on a controversial or confusing play. I get it, because he is a fan, not an automaton.


Speaking of replays did anyone think Grimble got a really shitty spot?


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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:08 am 
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steelclan wrote:
I'll take it as my rugby team had an absolutely shit week. Bengals are always tricky because they know Steelers so well. Especially as on at least 5 times by my count Bengal DBs got away with absolute muggings. That no call on AB on bomb v Jackson was bad, really bad.

It's a theme this season. Without even trying, I can immediately think of 4 no call holding/DPIs that cost the Steelers TDs.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:10 am 
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steelclan wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
bam morris wrote:
our defense looked like a cinci power play with 3 man advantage.

and Antti Niemi in goal.


Haden. Joe Haden wow. After re-watch he looked like the player Browns had in his prime. He was running step for step with receivers with no hitch at all. In first couple of games he was being protected by Steelers as it looked like he just didn't have speed he once did. Yesterday he flipped his hips with such fluid ease it was almost night and day from first few games and his pre season where he looked a shadow of who he was. Dare I say Steelers might finally have secondary to fuck with Brady. Still long way to go but with Burns and Hilton as well looks good and of course one other player has finally woken up:

Sean Davis has gotten his head out of his ass is a big time way in past 2 games. He was exceptional yesterday.

This defense is fun to watch. Haven't been able to say that since oh I dunno 2008? If offense keeps up its steady improvement this team has a real shot to do damage in Jan.

Yeah, it was only the play action Cincy TD pass at goal line that looked like Niemi! Agreed with the rest. Davis a pleasant surprise.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:12 am 
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steelclan wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
bam morris wrote:
slow delelop run is the call..lose 2 yards as bell swarmed..

He was nudging them for something we ALL constantly complain about: not showing a replay on a controversial or confusing play. I get it, because he is a fan, not an automaton.


Speaking of replays did anyone think Grimble got a really shitty spot?

I didn't think it was a 1st down, even though the spot was, indeed, shitty. The way the NFL replay works, if you challenge a bad spot and it's not conclusively a 1st down after the challenge, you lose your TO and lose the challenge.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:13 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Romo just lost some points with suggesting Haley is as good as any coordinator in the league.

you left of the rest of that quote... "at the run game"
I guess I missed that. But it's not like Munchak is sitting around with his thumb in his ass. Either way, I'm surprised to hear you defend Haley.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:21 am 
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I don't know if I agree that Haley is truly great at the run game-- but when it's not compressed area/short down the it's the one thing the Steelers do that looks like great play design and execution. It's possibly because Munchak puts it together. Romo alluded to that in an earlier game.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:28 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
I don't know if I agree that Haley is truly great at the run game-- but when it's not compressed area/short down the it's the one thing the Steelers do that looks like great play design and execution. It's possibly because Munchak puts it together. Romo alluded to that in an earlier game.


If they got short yardage right in that game they might have put up 50. They attacked Bengals in new and refreshing ways yesterday.


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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
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The Bengals have one of the best defenses in the league. Top Dline talent and very talented CBs. That the Steelers did not give up a sack and Bell ran for over 100 is impressive.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
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Yeah-- when the other team has Geno Atkins and Bufict, plus above average CBs... short yardage is going to be difficult.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Yeah-- when the other team has Geno Atkins and Bufict, plus above average CBs... short yardage is going to be difficult.


Aye fair enough but frankly as badly as short yardage went been nice to see some plays to outside, a bootleg or just something to mix it up. Instead? Just lining up and beating heads against wall was frustrating.


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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
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steelclan wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Yeah-- when the other team has Geno Atkins and Bufict, plus above average CBs... short yardage is going to be difficult.


Aye fair enough but frankly as badly as short yardage went been nice to see some plays to outside, a bootleg or just something to mix it up. Instead? Just lining up and beating heads against wall was frustrating.

The teams who win on 3rd and short throw to the quick slot guys and TE with frequency. They are rarely throwing to the outside receivers. Many spread the field and run vs. lighter defensive packages. We either pack it inside and give a slow handoff to Bell (when we don't replace the best 2016 NFL RB at short yardage with a UDFA RB), go deep to AB, or go 5 wide and try a 1 yard out to the FB or TE. On the few occasions we have looked for slot guys on 3rd and short, we've converted... a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Reg. Season # 7: Steelers vs. Bengals Game Comments
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TB wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
One thing that still bugs me, but I’ve resigned myself to realizing it’s just the way things are.

If the Steelers have a lead at the half, sure as shit Todd Haley is going to call off the dogs and enter clock-killing mode.

Even when Haden made the pick that put the Steelers in prime field position, he stated in clock killing mode.

I don’t know why they just won’t keep attacking in the second half...especially when it’s working.


I love Tomlin, but that's coming from him. If Tomlin wanted us to keep attacking, we would.


That's why I no longer love Tomlin and why I no longer trust him.

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