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 Post subject: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:24 pm 
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Here we go again, back to back.

Penguins projected lineup

Jake Guentzel -- Sidney Crosby -- Conor Sheary

Bryan Rust -- Evgeni Malkin -- Phil Kessel

Carl Hagelin -- Riley Sheahan -- Patric Hornqvist

Tom Kuhnhackl -- Greg McKegg -- Ryan Reaves

Brian Dumoulin -- Kris Letang

Olli Maatta -- Chad Ruhwedel

Ian Cole -- Zach Trotman

Casey Desmith

Matt Murray

Scratched: Josh Archibald, Frank Corrado

Injured: Matt Hunwick (concussion), Carter Rowney (hand), Justin Schultz (concussion)


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:43 pm 
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Pens look like fucking shit.

I’d bench Malkin.

The whole team isn’t skating. Don’t look like they care.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:45 pm 
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Damn. DeSmith gives up his first shot.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:48 pm 
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Orangesteel wrote:
Pens look like fucking shit.

I’d bench Malkin.

The whole team isn’t skating. Don’t look like they care.


Malkin played fine until he missed on the golden opportunity. After that he wilted.
Is Crosby playing?
Letang has been garbage and our 3rd or 4th best D man so far this year.

If you want to see a lesson on piss poor puck protection this is the game for it.

Love to see Sullivan's reaction b/n periods.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:52 pm 
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Holy Christ....I had to tune off when it was 2-0, just tuned back in. What the fuck happened?


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:09 pm 
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Sloppy with the puck. Didn't have good spacing zone to zone. Lost a ton of battles on the board and they were careless along their blue line(Malkin) that led to two goals maybe three.

They can't reach their opponents compete level for whatever reason on the second of back to back.

If this were an aberration(to start the year) on the second of back to back I would give some blame to Sullivan for the broad line changes tonight. Yet, he stated that the team had to be better 5 on 5 the past two days so the team knew it was coming.

Not sweating but this failure on the second of back to back games is becoming very worrisome.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:39 pm 
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I think Pens wanted to make sure we weren't tempted to split the screen tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
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swissvale72 wrote:
Holy Christ....I had to tune off when it was 2-0, just tuned back in. What the fuck happened?


Everyone fucked up and I mean EVERYONE. Horrendous coverage, slowfootedness (Maata look like he grabbed a time machine back to 2015 with his skating).

The 5 on 5 play has been brutal- Ithink they stand last in the league. Can you fucking believe THAT stat?
They've been saved by a great PP and some good goaltending performances


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:19 am 
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
Holy Christ....I had to tune off when it was 2-0, just tuned back in. What the fuck happened?


Everyone fucked up and I mean EVERYONE. Horrendous coverage, slowfootedness (Maata look like he grabbed a time machine back to 2015 with his skating).

The 5 on 5 play has been brutal- Ithink they stand last in the league. Can you fucking believe THAT stat?
They've been saved by a great PP and some good goaltending performances

Folks keep talking 3rd line C needs......DEFENSE.....hoping Tanger comes back to life


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:33 am 
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Suwanee88 wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
Holy Christ....I had to tune off when it was 2-0, just tuned back in. What the fuck happened?


Everyone fucked up and I mean EVERYONE. Horrendous coverage, slowfootedness (Maata look like he grabbed a time machine back to 2015 with his skating).

The 5 on 5 play has been brutal- Ithink they stand last in the league. Can you fucking believe THAT stat?
They've been saved by a great PP and some good goaltending performances

Folks keep talking 3rd line C needs......DEFENSE.....hoping Tanger comes back to life


I think Sheahan is fine and fills the role we need him to. Just seems that there is zero line chemistry going on plus as you said the D is a mess. 1/3 of the starters are out with injuries


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:39 pm 
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Letang playing like a 5th defenseman isn't helping with the injury/depth issues, either. I never thought I'd say I miss Matt Hunwick already, but...

Schultz's PP production is also sorely missed, particularly since the PP is about all (along with MM) that's keeping this team afloat at the moment.

Defense can at least blame injuries. ES scoring on offense? Not sure what's going on there, but I know it stinks. Sid and the Kids seem to be going the way of HBK this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:57 pm 
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the reddit Pens thread is a good place to read about Pens hockey. From there;

- Pens are -14 as a team on the year

- have lost games 10-1, 7-1 and 7-1

- but are still 7-5-1

We’ve been marginally good and REALLY fucking bad. Also some good opinions over there about Ryan Reaves and why he doesn’t make much sense on this team (an opinion of course).

My take: team defense and 5-5 hockey has been atrocious. Guentzel looked like a star last playoffs but is he a 30-40 goal scorer? I don’t know. This team goes as Crosby Malkin Letang Schultz and Kessel go.

Must play better, period.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:24 pm 
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Letang is -14 all by himself.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:30 am 
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Ice wrote:
Letang is -14 all by himself.


Yea I'm convinced they removed part of Letang's brain when they did the neck surgery. He wasn't the brightest guy in the world to begin with

Reaves has a place on this team, but it can't be part of a line that has Kuhn on it- that makes the line too slow. I get that Kuhn PK's but what else does he offer? If they put in Archibald for Kuhn (or Reaves occasionally) that at least solves some problems on the 4th line.

This team has played a ton of hockey and while I'm not thrilled with what's gone on, they've proven they can flip the switch come March


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Jets 10-29-17
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:06 am 
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A lot of Letang's screw-ups in previous seasons (bad turnovers leading to odd-man rushes/goals, pinching at the wrong time leading to odd-man rushes/goals, insert multiple other brainfarts leading to odd-man rushes/goals as needed) have been covered by the fact that he's paired with the top two lines or on the PP most of the time, so the prolific scoring of those pairings hides his relatively shitty play in the +/- column. This year, top two lines' scoring hasn't been up to par, and Letang is getting exposed +/- because of it.

Another reason why +/- is a horrible stat for evaluating NHL play.

Scary stat? The Penguins lead the NHL with 19 sets of back to back games (38 of 82 total), where the NHL average is around 13. Whatever the back to back issue is, they'd better fix it. It isn't going away by itself.


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