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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:27 pm 
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And maybe we can at the least all agree that nothing Comey says should hold any weight.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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There are many many examples of Fox lies (see Seth Rich conspiracy for one of many) however recently I am not sure if you have heard but they have said countless times that there is zero evidence of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. Zero evidence. But there kinda is lots of evidence and more and more coming daily about people on the campaign kinda, sorta trying to connect with Russian peeps to cut quid pro quo's. Just a little bit here and there. See Manafort see Donny Jr, see Page etc.

Please save your canned response, I know you will check your talking points and like a good parrot spew them out. Just trying to help you fella's see the light.

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Russia again? The bogus witch hunt by Mueller? Other than saying the word collusion what actual collusion has there been evidence of? Actual collusion now. Not just cuz CNN said. Money paid for a benefit received. Real collusion. Tied to Trump. Not something Manafort did prior to campaign.

And I suppose you’ve been ignoring the real story about what the DNC was doing on he campaign. More conspiracy right? It’s all just a “vast right wing conspiracy” huh? Just like the cum on Monica’s dress.

Funny how just the mention of collusion stirs up the left yet hard evidence of real crimes committed by your cherished & failed candidate are always dismissed.


95 there are indictments and more coming and someone (papadopolous)plead guilty already to lying to the FBI about Russian entanglements. Whatever, believe what you (or Hannity) want to believe I actually feel kinda feel sorry for you. :(


you all need to see that whole situation as disinformation warfare. Sun Tzu, all war is deception. Those sealed indictments are going to raise eyebrows.

you never replied to me on your attack a few pages back. How is that hate speech law coming up there? Talk about a mess

If you happened to see what the Saudi reformation effort the past 3 years until the other days (corruption arrests) is going to roll up all the FARA violations of all our senate and house members. Look at the one billionare who was funneling the money to many here. The rug is rolling up worldwide.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:35 pm 
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you all need to see that whole situation as disinformation warfare.


Oh I’m fully aware that does and has been taking place.

It’s the other stooges here that immediately dismiss anything negative about their precious flowers or immediately take the position that if Fox News said it then it is fake.

Shit, even a blind squirrel can find nuts.

Here are three questions for the loyal followers of CNN otherwise known as the Clinton News Network:

1) In your opinion, was Hillary grossly negligent in her (mis)handling of classified information? There is so much evidence she was I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d answer “no” and still maintain a shred of credibility.

2) In your opinion, did Hillary commit obstruction of justice when she deleted thousands upon thousands of emails AND had her IT people wipe the server clean? Please note these were not her emails to do as she pleases with. Those emails were yours and mine and she was required BY LAW to maintain records of. We could also toss in destruction of government property while we are at it. There is so much evidence she did these things I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d answer “no” and still maintain a shred of credibility.

3) In your opinion, did Hillary commit perjury when she lied under oath before Congress? There is ample evidence that shows statements made under oath proved to be false when recovered emails (you know, the ones she couldn’t delete) proved her statements were false. There is so much evidence she did I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d answer “no” and still maintain a shred of credibility.

Given that items 1, 2, & 3 are nearly impossible to refute, how is it then that our “justice department” was able to arrive at the conclusion that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges?

Really? Hmmm, do reasonable investigators write their exoneration of a target before they’ve even interviewed them? Do reasonable (and non-corrupt) attorney generals inform their investigators to not even refer to the “matter” as an investigation? Is it not a conflict of interest when the target of the investigations husband meets with the top attorney privately (her former boss) before the no-charges debacle?

How can a reasonable person dismiss all of this and yet have such outrage over the stuff the very people covering up this scandal are slinging at the other side? How is any of that credible when such lengths have been taken to sweep all this under the rug?

I’m all for brining them all down. But that’s not the case here. You here on the left only want to believe the stuff that fits nicely into your own narrative.

On one side there is accusations that you believe simply because the accusations have been made yet on the other side there is HARD EVIDENCE of actual crimes and yet it’s all “fake news”.

So have at it Stinger, Cor-ten, Poltargyst. Tell me how what I posted above didn’t happen. Tell me how it was made up. Tell me how it’s a vast right wing conspiracy.

Treason, obstruction, destruction of gov. property, collusion, corruption, and perjury. Hard evidence supports that your precious Hillary has committed them all in spades.

But but but CNN said something about Manafort....

Ok, fry him up I say. But only after you cook the big fish that’s been swimming in the scum pond.

Somehow though the sheeple here will defend it and anyone else with a (D) next to their name.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:49 pm 
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That sealed doj indictment list grew from 8 to 14 and now 7 more today ....total of 31

https://mobile.twitter.com/LizCrokin/st ... 76/photo/1

Plot thickens

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:48 pm 
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I'm all for background checks as well - but the issue, first and foremost, is that the Texas shooter (and the Charleston shooter) both passed a background check because the government fucked up their records. Basically, i don't trust the federal government to handle records properly.
It wasn't the government. It was the Air Force, from what I understand. The military division of "government." I'm sorry it doesn't fit the narrative that the government is inherently bad.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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I've not weighed in on this for awhile, and my responses will be more base, not nearly as reasoned as those of you asshats that are well-read on these topics. Few thoughts:

1. Stinger's last message to me: Yes and that 15% helps fund better health care, better education, better infrastructure, safer society, guaranteed pension (CPP and old age) and overall happier lifestyle for EVERYONE. The metrics dont lie (pesky things to contradict those metrics). You can look em up on the intraweb.

I can honestly say I have never heard a Canadian say "damn it makes me angry when an American gets $.20 cents more on the dollar here in Canada (or european, or Brit etc)????. What I can say is I hear Canadians say damn the fact our dollar is worth $.80 against the US dollar is GREAT for my business.


I think you misunderstood me, Stinger. Neither have I heard any Canadian begrudging Americans their currency conversion. I AM saying though, that I know plenty of people in PEI that are struggling to pay the prices they pay for commodities plus 15% tax. I'm good buying stuff in Canada due to the great mitigator, the US Dollar being worth $1.25 when up against the looney. True....many businesses, merchants, etc. do much worse when the looney is equal to the dollars. Few other things:

2. Donald Trump is a fuckin' douchebag. He's an absolute embarrassment to have that guy, whom his own Secretary of State reportedly referred to, quite legitimately, as a moron, as President of our country. It's a sad commentary on the electorate.

3. Hillary Clinton needs to Shut the FUCK Up and go the fuck away. She's a drag on the Democratic Party.

4. Much as it pains me to say it, the King of Mumbo-Jumbo, Ivory Tower Ike, Academia Artie, Still Lit is goddamn on the mark about guns. Hell....require every household to have a handgun so we can off any suspected intruder, lawn invader, or smirker. Throw in a rifle so we can shoot the squirrels in our yard, boil 'em up. But...we CAN to that, and still not sell military grade weapons, built to inflict maximum damage, to the very population of Americans most off their fuckin' rocker. Sure, sell these killing machines to crazy mother-fuckers, then say there's nothing we can do...they might have killed just as may by choking them to death.

5. FUCK Colin Kaepernick and all these so-called demonstrators. What a fuckin' stupid way to sway public opinion. Identify a cause...then alienate half the fuckin' country in pursuit of this cause. And all the outrage at police killings of so-called Unarmed Black Men? Seriously?? Sure....let's make heroes out of fuckin' idiots like Michael Brown. Let's canonize the mother-fucker who all he had to do was listen to the cop telling him to get the fuck out of the middle of the street, not strong-arm a cigar store owner. Now, I'm not a fan of Barney Frank, but he had one of the best lines of all times by a politico. When criticized for not opposing the death penalty strongly enough, the senator from Massachusetts, referring to those executed, said, "I won't miss 'em."


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:43 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
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I'm all for background checks as well - but the issue, first and foremost, is that the Texas shooter (and the Charleston shooter) both passed a background check because the government fucked up their records. Basically, i don't trust the federal government to handle records properly.
It wasn't the government. It was the Air Force, from what I understand. The military division of "government." I'm sorry it doesn't fit the narrative that the government is inherently bad.


Apparently, the Armed Services do not have to enter crimes of domestic abuse in the criminal DB like everyone else. They are trying to pass a law now to do just that.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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It isn’t plausible on any level to believe they knew nothing of Russians before Nov. 8, 2016 but all of a sudden immediately after they have all this evidence of Russian collusion? Smells fishy to me.



Huh??

July 25 2016 – The FBI confirms it has opened an investigation into the hacking of the DNC computer network. “The FBI is investigating a cyber intrusion involving the DNC and are working to determine the nature and scope of the matter. A compromise of this nature is something we take very seriously, and the FBI will continue to investigate and hold accountable those who pose a threat in cyberspace,” it says in a release.

(James Comey, the FBI director at the time, would later testify that the FBI in late July 2016 began investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election and whether Trump campaign associates were involved in those efforts. The New York Times would later report that Page’s speech in Moscow “was a catalyst for the F.B.I. investigation into connections between Russia and President Trump’s campaign.”)

So under oath, the FBI director testified that they began looking into whether the Trump associates were involved in Russia's interference with the election. So the Government and Intelligence agencies knew about it before the election day. It was not announced that it was occurring because officials ( i.e. Obama) did not want to seem to influence the election.


Leaving out all the news about the DNC, Fushion GPS, and the Clinton ties to the “Russians”?

My point, which apparently is lost here is that if they had knoweledge prior to 11/8 that Trump was in cahoots with the Russians they would have used it during campaign. It would have been a huge thing.

As it turned out, the Russian stuff wasn’t made a huge issue until after the surprise victory. Then it was oh my god we’ve been invaded, hacked, and taken over by the Russians.


I believe I stated that the administration did not want to appear to influence the election by announcing that people in the Trump campaign were under investigation for possibly working with the Russians to interfere with the election. It became a big deal because after the election, when it could not longer be construed as attempting to influence the election, the administration announced it what had happened. Even then the Obama administration did not say that Trump or his campaign was being investigated. That news was broken in a tweet by Trump. Not long afterwards, the National Security Advisor was fired because he was found to be lying about his contacts with the Russians.

As to your other points. If the Justice department, under Trump, is not doing anything against Clinton it just might be because there is nothing to be done. You do realize that they can ignore Comey's recommendation and prosecute her. They are well within any statue of limitations. So if Trump's Justice department is not doing it you had better start asking why.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:06 pm 
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you all need to see that whole situation as disinformation warfare.


Oh I’m fully aware that does and has been taking place.

It’s the other stooges here that immediately dismiss anything negative about their precious flowers or immediately take the position that if Fox News said it then it is fake.

Shit, even a blind squirrel can find nuts.

Here are three questions for the loyal followers of CNN otherwise known as the Clinton News Network:

1) In your opinion, was Hillary grossly negligent in her (mis)handling of classified information? There is so much evidence she was I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d answer “no” and still maintain a shred of credibility.

2) In your opinion, did Hillary commit obstruction of justice when she deleted thousands upon thousands of emails AND had her IT people wipe the server clean? Please note these were not her emails to do as she pleases with. Those emails were yours and mine and she was required BY LAW to maintain records of. We could also toss in destruction of government property while we are at it. There is so much evidence she did these things I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d answer “no” and still maintain a shred of credibility.

3) In your opinion, did Hillary commit perjury when she lied under oath before Congress? There is ample evidence that shows statements made under oath proved to be false when recovered emails (you know, the ones she couldn’t delete) proved her statements were false. There is so much evidence she did I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d answer “no” and still maintain a shred of credibility.

Given that items 1, 2, & 3 are nearly impossible to refute, how is it then that our “justice department” was able to arrive at the conclusion that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges?

Really? Hmmm, do reasonable investigators write their exoneration of a target before they’ve even interviewed them? Do reasonable (and non-corrupt) attorney generals inform their investigators to not even refer to the “matter” as an investigation? Is it not a conflict of interest when the target of the investigations husband meets with the top attorney privately (her former boss) before the no-charges debacle?

How can a reasonable person dismiss all of this and yet have such outrage over the stuff the very people covering up this scandal are slinging at the other side? How is any of that credible when such lengths have been taken to sweep all this under the rug?

I’m all for brining them all down. But that’s not the case here. You here on the left only want to believe the stuff that fits nicely into your own narrative.

On one side there is accusations that you believe simply because the accusations have been made yet on the other side there is HARD EVIDENCE of actual crimes and yet it’s all “fake news”.

So have at it Stinger, Cor-ten, Poltargyst. Tell me how what I posted above didn’t happen. Tell me how it was made up. Tell me how it’s a vast right wing conspiracy.

Treason, obstruction, destruction of gov. property, collusion, corruption, and perjury. Hard evidence supports that your precious Hillary has committed them all in spades.

But but but CNN said something about Manafort....

Ok, fry him up I say. But only after you cook the big fish that’s been swimming in the scum pond.

Somehow though the sheeple here will defend it and anyone else with a (D) next to their name.


Ok, I'll do some reading and see what I come up with. In the meantime, riddle me this:

During the campaign, Trump promised to do many things on DAY ONE. One of those things was to prosecute Hillary. Trump stood on a debate stage with Hillary and promised to see her in prison if he won. It was one of the promises of his campaign.

Okay. Trump won. Republicans have all the power right now. The full power of the United States justice system can be brought to bear on Hillary now, and Trump promised to do it. So why is nothing happening? If she's so obviously so guilty, where's the prosecution?

Or, to turn around your earlier statement, now that Hillary/the Clintons are no longer a threat, there's no further need to throw crap charges at her in campaign speeches?

Mueller was appointed by a Republican Attorney General in a Republican administration, but I'm supposed to dismiss his investigation as some kind of farce? Let's see what he comes up with, shall we?


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:33 pm 
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I believe I stated that the administration did not want to appear to influence the election by announcing that people in the Trump campaign were under investigation for possibly working with the Russians to interfere with the election.


Wait, let me get this straight. You are saying the Obama Administration had knowledge (before elections) of people in the Trump campaign working with the Russians but sat on it because he “didn’t want to influence the elections”?

That is comedy gold.

They absolutely would have used it to oh I dunno, win the election....

Again leaving out the OTHER sides ties to the Russians that has been coming out.

Fake news though so it doesn’t count.

Yep, Obama new of this and sat on it.

How’s this for something more probable. He knew the Russians were trying to meddle, he didn’t have any real dirt on Trump & Russians together, he didn’t want it brought up as to not taint Hillary’s victory and give those on the right any fingers to point later. So lips are sealed.

Trump pulls the upset and all of a sudden it’s OMG the Russians interfered with our elections.

Here’s a fact, they would have used any and all info they had if it could have hurt Trump leading up to 11/8. To believe they sat on something of that caliber TO TRUMP’S BENEFIT is beyond crazy.

You essentially said Obama did Trump a solid.

Ummm ok...


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