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 Post subject: Re: Voch Lombardi scouting TJ Watt
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:50 am 
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I mean, there are plenty of times you watch Bud and it doesn't seem to make sense-- I just didn't think that particular play was a good example.

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 Post subject: Re: Voch Lombardi scouting TJ Watt
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Bud Dupree got owned by that Bengal TE in the first play...I don't think I've seen an OLB get ridden so parallel to the line of scrimmage. :cry:

It's painful watching how inefficiently Dupree's thoughts are translated into motion. His explosion and energy are wasted on odd vectors. I thought all he needed were snaps. Instead he seems to be on the Timmons 7 year learning curve....

You understand that Bud is running a stunt, right? His job is to engage that TE and take him inside so that the ILB can have a free run at the QB-- which he did. In addition, there's a play fake and Bud got a twofer, with a free run at the RB in case he did get the ball. What that looks like to me is a designed play based on film study of the opponent and I thought Bud did great with his job. Maybe could have wrapped that RB but the rest is pretty nitpicky.

Makes you wonder what grade PFF gave him on this play....

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 Post subject: Re: Voch Lombardi scouting TJ Watt
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
I mean, there are plenty of times you watch Bud and it doesn't seem to make sense-- I just didn't think that particular play was a good example.


I agree. His play has been streaky, inconsistent technique, been banged up over the past year.

Bud has flashed and at this point, the defense is likely better with him, than without him.


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 Post subject: Re: Voch Lombardi scouting TJ Watt
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My observation is that Bud is actually pretty good when he has a specific task on a play. When he has a plan, he executes it.

Now, he does still seem to have some pass rush snaps without a great plan AND he hasn't become the kind of transcendent player who uses the plan as a jumping off point for making splash plays-- which he has the athletic ability to do.

But you see him in pass rush contain/force, running stunts-- he does that stuff really well.

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 Post subject: Re: Voch Lombardi scouting TJ Watt
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Bud Dupree got owned by that Bengal TE in the first play...I don't think I've seen an OLB get ridden so parallel to the line of scrimmage. :cry:

It's painful watching how inefficiently Dupree's thoughts are translated into motion. His explosion and energy are wasted on odd vectors. I thought all he needed were snaps. Instead he seems to be on the Timmons 7 year learning curve....

You understand that Bud is running a stunt, right? His job is to engage that TE and take him inside so that the ILB can have a free run at the QB-- which he did. In addition, there's a play fake and Bud got a twofer, with a free run at the RB in case he did get the ball. What that looks like to me is a designed play based on film study of the opponent and I thought Bud did great with his job. Maybe could have wrapped that RB but the rest is pretty nitpicky.

Makes you wonder what grade PFF gave him on this play....


I'll take your word for it. I'm on the Bud bandwagon because (a). he can play 60 snaps full speed without getting gassed and (b). he's shown flashes of some freaky ass shit you can't coach. I could live with his performance if he didn't have so much potential.

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