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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:42 pm 
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Steel Drummer wrote:
The offense actually took off in the 2nd half of 2013, before Munchak:

1st 7 games of 2013, average points: 17.9
Last 9 games, average points: 28.2

1st 9 games, number of sacks: 4 per game (36 sacks)
Last 7 games, number of sacks: 1 per game (7 sacks)

That's the reason we almost made the playoffs out of nowhere. The difference in sacks is amazing; something clearly clicked midseason. Again, this is before Munchak and Bell, and at a time when the defense was still bottoming out. (It hit bottom really in 2014.)

I agree though that Haley's positive contributions ended a while ago. Also, if Ben doesn't want him, then Haley needs to go. No other argument matters.


I don't know...look at who we played during those last nine games...explains a lot, imo...NE & GB required a lot of scoring just be in the games, Browns twice, Cinci, Bill, Lions, and Fins at home.

9 November 3 at New England Patriots L 31–55
10 November 10 Buffalo Bills W 23–10
11 November 17 Detroit Lions W 37–27
12 November 24 at Cleveland Browns W 27–11
13 November 28 at Baltimore Ravens L 20–22
14 December 8 Miami Dolphins L 28–34
15 December 15 Cincinnati Bengals W 30–20
16 December 22 at Green Bay Packers W 38–31
17 December 29 Cleveland Browns W 20–7


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:57 pm 
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This thread is ridiculous. It's like asking what is worse losing $20 (Munchak) or a buck & a half (Haley). Haley would have already been gone without Munchak.


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:12 pm 
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With any common sense or luck Haley is gone and Munchak can respectfully decline the HC job in Arizona and stay put. 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:12 pm 
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I am curious to see if the steelers resign Haley after the season especially if they win the SB


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:17 pm 
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steelmann58 wrote:
I am curious to see if the steelers resign Haley after the season especially if they win the SB

It is curious that they haven't renewed his contract. Is it dependent on how the season turns out? Or is he already out at the end of the season?


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:16 pm 
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Poltargyst wrote:
steelmann58 wrote:
I am curious to see if the steelers resign Haley after the season especially if they win the SB

It is curious that they haven't renewed his contract. Is it dependent on how the season turns out? Or is he already out at the end of the season?

Haley will be back, Ben on the other hand...

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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:46 pm 
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Jobus i also think if they win a SB Ben might be riding off in the sunset.


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
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steelmann58 wrote:
Jobus i also think if they win a SB Ben might be riding off in the sunset.

Bittersweet...

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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:26 am 
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Yes it will be but it going to be a day when it comes in the near future an we might as well go out with a trophy.


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 Post subject: Re: Munchak or Haley the greater loss
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:32 am 
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I hope if Ben does retire they don't throw money at Cousins


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