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 Post subject: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:00 pm 
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Definitely don’t like the sound of this. Hope everything is OK.

Jarry will be fine in the short term, as you could easily argue he’s been playing better anyways, but this could make us dangerously thin if Murray ends up being out for an extended period.

Our margin for error gets thinner by the day. Definitely don’t need any more hurdles than we already have.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:34 pm 
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Something is wrong with Murray. Be it physical or mental he isn't the same player he was the past 2 seasons.
His compete level has waned the past few weeks and he looks sluggish and out of touch far too often.

Hopefully a few weeks away 'from it all' is the cure to his recent woes.


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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Definitely don’t like the sound of this. Hope everything is OK.

Jarry will be fine in the short term, as you could easily argue he’s been playing better anyways, but this could make us dangerously thin if Murray ends up being out for an extended period.

Our margin for error gets thinner by the day. Definitely don’t need any more hurdles than we already have.


Wow!! Any sense of what this is?


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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swissvale72 wrote:
Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Definitely don’t like the sound of this. Hope everything is OK.

Jarry will be fine in the short term, as you could easily argue he’s been playing better anyways, but this could make us dangerously thin if Murray ends up being out for an extended period.

Our margin for error gets thinner by the day. Definitely don’t need any more hurdles than we already have.


Wow!! Any sense of what this is?



Haven’t seen a whole lot out there, really. Having hard time even getting a sense for how long it could be.

Most articles do say “indefinitely”, but some also word like he’s out today and could be back with the team any day after.

I really have no idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:26 pm 
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Good friend of mine said the Pens would rue the day MAF left. I scoffed at him. I am scoffing no more.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Obviously wrote:
Good friend of mine said the Pens would rue the day MAF left. I scoffed at him. I am scoffing no more.


Maybe Vegas will give him back. :lol:

Fortunately, Jarry has stepped up.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:25 pm 
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Shit happens over time. The Pens made a decision at the time, and MAF was the forced, odd man out.

Sure. Rewind if you can, but life just doesn't work that way.

Not sure they had better choices at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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fractalsteel wrote:
Something is wrong with Murray. Be it physical or mental he isn't the same player he was the past 2 seasons.
His compete level has waned the past few weeks and he looks sluggish and out of touch far too often.

Hopefully a few weeks away 'from it all' is the cure to his recent woes.


This isn't the first time an NHL goalie has taken some time off for personal reasons and it's a way for them to mentally reset. I'm praying for Murray's family this is indeed the case

Thankfully when other goalies have taken this break they've come back with improved results


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Totally random question but if he misses enough time and comes back for the playoffs would he still be considered a rookie again? Like if we get into the playoffs and win a 3rd straight could he be a 3 time rookie Stanley Cup Champion goaltender?


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Totally random question but if he misses enough time and comes back for the playoffs would he still be considered a rookie again? Like if we get into the playoffs and win a 3rd straight could he be a 3 time rookie Stanley Cup Champion goaltender?


No, you can only be in contention for the Calder once


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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well dude has tasted success in goal at his young age and career like no other.. I wonder if alcohol is his demon? I'm purely speculating..and guessing..maybe sick family member? no idea his personal situation..


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Donnie Brasco wrote:
stillthere wrote:
Totally random question but if he misses enough time and comes back for the playoffs would he still be considered a rookie again? Like if we get into the playoffs and win a 3rd straight could he be a 3 time rookie Stanley Cup Champion goaltender?


No, you can only be in contention for the Calder once


No. I mean last year he was a rookie in the playoffs again because he had not accrued enough games to be considered more than a rookie even though he won a cup the year before with Pittsburgh.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
fractalsteel wrote:
Something is wrong with Murray. Be it physical or mental he isn't the same player he was the past 2 seasons.
His compete level has waned the past few weeks and he looks sluggish and out of touch far too often.

Hopefully a few weeks away 'from it all' is the cure to his recent woes.


This isn't the first time an NHL goalie has taken some time off for personal reasons and it's a way for them to mentally reset. I'm praying for Murray's family this is indeed the case

Thankfully when other goalies have taken this break they've come back with improved results



No doubt-is there a more fragile(mental) position in the big 4 professional sports?
Time away is what's best for him, then let it happen.


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bam morris wrote:
well dude has tasted success in goal at his young age and career like no other.. I wonder if alcohol is his demon? I'm purely speculating..and guessing..maybe sick family member? no idea his personal situation..


Again I'd put money on it being a mental break


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
bam morris wrote:
well dude has tasted success in goal at his young age and career like no other.. I wonder if alcohol is his demon? I'm purely speculating..and guessing..maybe sick family member? no idea his personal situation..


Again I'd put money on it being a mental break


I don’t know. That seems like a stretch. His last outing was a relief win in which he saved the game by stopping a penalty shot in the final minute. Then he had a week off to just sit back and relax. Maybe he got his ass in trouble on his days off. I’m betting it is just family issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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A mental break? As in the franchise is OK footing the bill while a guy takes a few weeks off to figure shit out?

Is it his broad perhaps? Maybe she was pregnant and lost the kid or something?


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Hockey players arent football players.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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A mental break? As in the franchise is OK footing the bill while a guy takes a few weeks off to figure shit out?

Is it his broad perhaps? Maybe she was pregnant and lost the kid or something?


No one knows... It's just me speculating. I'm pointing out that goalies taking a break mid season isn't completely unprecedented. And these breaks usually are a week or so


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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If they are saying personal reasons then that is what it is. Shit, sometimes you need a break, sometimes stuff is just not going your way. Think of all the random shit you have ever had to put up with for no good reason. The exception being it was a Tuesday or Sunday at 5am.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Orangesteel wrote:
A mental break? As in the franchise is OK footing the bill while a guy takes a few weeks off to figure shit out?

Is it his broad perhaps? Maybe she was pregnant and lost the kid or something?


No one knows... It's just me speculating. I'm pointing out that goalies taking a break mid season isn't completely unprecedented. And these breaks usually are a week or so


Yeah I don’t disagree, I am just wondering what the issue is. He’s played poorly, but hasn’t been horrendous. A goalie’s psyche is so delicate, but the dude has won back to back cups.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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COR-TEN wrote:
Shit happens over time. The Pens made a decision at the time, and MAF was the forced, odd man out.

Sure. Rewind if you can, but life just doesn't work that way.

Not sure they had better choices at the time.


I agree and it's all hindsight, of course. I thought they had made the correct decision.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Jarry to start tonight


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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People upset that we let MAF go have to remember we could not keep both goalies. One WOULD be lost in the expansion draft....we had to expose one.

So tell me last year you would have felt really good leaving Murray unprotected and keeping MAF.

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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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I was always a Fleury guy, but it made no sense to keep him over Murray.

Murray was younger, cheaper, and while I never really believed Murray was significantly better, the fact that they were close enough to even argue about it made it a no brainer with all the other factors.

Even Fleury understood it made sense and said as much.


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 Post subject: Re: Matt Murray out indefinitely for personal reasons
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Jarry to start tonight

jarry making case of wally pipping murray as murray did to flower.. good to see his efforts!!


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