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 Post subject: Update : McDaniels Spurns Indy at the 11th hour
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:09 am 
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Here comes the first bit of info

Josh Mcdaniels - C - Patriots
Profootballtalk's Mike Florio passes along "increasing chatter" Patriots OC Josh McDaniels will stay in New England after this season.
McDaniels as head coach of the Colts has long been considered a done deal, but the Colts couldn't get McDaniels to formally commit until after the Patriots were finished playing. During the playoffs, it sounds like McDaniels has had second thoughts about going to Indy. If McDaniels does spurn the Colts, it will immediately raise questions about Bill Belichick's future in New England.

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 Post subject: Re: Rumors on Belichick after McDaniels getting cold feet w
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Belicheat will retire when Brady does (or when Ernie Adams dies, whichever comes first). I'd guess that's 2-3 more years.

McDaniels might hang around for that.

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Meh. Move this shit to Pats fury aka around the NFL.

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Still Lit wrote:
Meh. Move this shit to Pats fury aka around the NFL.


You should wipe better, the stink is embarrassing :P

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BethlehemSteel wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Meh. Move this shit to Pats fury aka around the NFL.


You should wipe better, the stink is embarrassing :P


I'd rather smell than be a conspiracy prone imbecile.

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Still Lit wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Meh. Move this shit to Pats fury aka around the NFL.


You should wipe better, the stink is embarrassing :P


I'd rather smell than be a conspiracy prone imbecile.


Haha piled higher and deeper

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The only way McDaniels stays is if he thinks BB is gone this year or next and he’s the HC in waiting.

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Looks like McShamiels is going to Indy

just dropped

darn

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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.

I realized there were issues with Parcells health and departure from the Patriots, the Jets and Belichick's return to the Patriots, but I didn't realize how tricky and sticky it was. The media made it seem like it was all about his heath. Granted, I wasn't watching as closely at the time and Belichick wasn't' even on my radar. . .

Kinda explains why Kraft feels like the NFL owes him. Or owed him, 'cause he's already got a couple of big gifts already. Kraft makes it sound like he was shafted by sidestepping rules that could have cost him more super bowl wins.

And this McDaniels thing smells like they wanted to avoid similar conflicts.

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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.


After watching this I have no doubts Bill Belicheck is not only the greatest NFL coach of all time...He is far and away the greatest pro coach of all time in any sport

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 Post subject: Re: Rumors on Belichick after McDaniels getting cold feet w
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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.


After watching this I have no doubts Bill Belicheck is not only the greatest NFL coach of all time...He is far and away the greatest pro coach of all time in any sport


Close 2nd to Tomlin IMO.


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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.

I realized there were issues with Parcells health and departure from the Patriots, the Jets and Belichick's return to the Patriots, but I didn't realize how tricky and sticky it was. The media made it seem like it was all about his heath. Granted, I wasn't watching as closely at the time and Belichick wasn't' even on my radar. . .

Kinda explains why Kraft feels like the NFL owes him. Or owed him, 'cause he's already got a couple of big gifts already. Kraft makes it sound like he was shafted by sidestepping rules that could have cost him more super bowl wins.

And this McDaniels thing smells like they wanted to avoid similar conflicts.


Will this be on again? I was out last night and missed it.

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COR-TEN wrote:
I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.

I realized there were issues with Parcells health and departure from the Patriots, the Jets and Belichick's return to the Patriots, but I didn't realize how tricky and sticky it was. The media made it seem like it was all about his heath. Granted, I wasn't watching as closely at the time and Belichick wasn't' even on my radar. . .

Kinda explains why Kraft feels like the NFL owes him. Or owed him, 'cause he's already got a couple of big gifts already. Kraft makes it sound like he was shafted by sidestepping rules that could have cost him more super bowl wins.

And this McDaniels thing smells like they wanted to avoid similar conflicts.


can you give some cliff notes, or some youtube link,

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 Post subject: Re: Rumors on Belichick after McDaniels getting cold feet w
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I saw it on my streaming device. Not sure when it airs, but if you have your cable package set up to view on other devices, you could probably see it whenever you want.

It told the history of Belichik and Parcells and how they met. BB was a special teams coach, that moved up the ranks, but Parcells, according Belichick, was his teacher and mentor. But it's obvious BB is a detail football mastermind, but Parcells was best at moving chess pieces around in the big picture. Parcells wouldn't have had success without BB. I was in NYC for the Parcells era, and it doesn't surprise me. They were dominating on defense with L Taylor - who basically said his career went down the toilet when Parcells left. He was the only guy who could keep him under wraps.

At any rate, the jets pulled Parcells away from the Pats in what he described as an underhanded move by the NFL and Jets ownership. Interviewed him and did this behind Krafts back, and supposedly illegally. He got draft picks as compensation orchestrated by Tagliabu, but wasn't ready to hire BB. Insert Pete Carroll. Fast forward a few years later and Kraft takes Belichick away from the jets in 2001 or so, for another set of draft picks, but Parcells tried to block the move by calling him a co-head coach. He wanted to insure Belichick would stay in NYC with the jets. BB and Parcells didn't talk for a while.

But it's curious that BB has been part of changing ownership and weird moves by coaches and cities. Belichick would have a short stint at Cleveland, but they moved to Balt and left him in the lurch. Then the Jets/pats fiasco. But all this talk about Belichick not doing anything in Clev is bullshit. He wasn't there long enough. His system is and brain clearly works wonders for whatever team he coaches.

But the mutual respect and admiration is definitely there - especially since they've patched up the friendship.

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I saw it on my streaming device. Not sure when it airs, but if you have your cable package set up to view on other devices, you could probably see it whenever you want.

It told the history of Belichik and Parcells and how they met. BB was a special teams coach, that moved up the ranks, but Parcells, according Belichick, was his teacher and mentor. But it's obvious BB is a detail football mastermind, but Parcells was best at moving chess pieces around in the big picture. Parcells wouldn't have had success without BB. I was in NYC for the Parcells era, and it doesn't surprise me. They were dominating on defense with L Taylor - who basically said his career went down the toilet when Parcells left. He was the only guy who could keep him under wraps.

At any rate, the jets pulled Parcells away from the Pats in what he described as an underhanded move by the NFL and Jets ownership. Interviewed him and did this behind Krafts back, and supposedly illegally. He got draft picks as compensation orchestrated by Tagliabu, but wasn't ready to hire BB. Insert Pete Carroll. Fast forward a few years later and Kraft takes Belichick away from the jets in 2001 or so, for another set of draft picks, but Parcells tried to block the move by calling him a co-head coach. He wanted to insure Belichick would stay in NYC with the jets. BB and Parcells didn't talk for a while.

But it's curious that BB has been part of changing ownership and weird moves by coaches and cities. Belichick would have a short stint at Cleveland, but they moved to Balt and left him in the lurch. Then the Jets/pats fiasco. But all this talk about Belichick not doing anything in Clev is bullshit. He wasn't there long enough. His system is and brain clearly works wonders for whatever team he coaches.

But the mutual respect and admiration is definitely there - especially since they've patched up the friendship.


Ok got it. I'll have to check it out. a lot of the BB pre Pats history is laid out in the spygate book

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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.


After watching this I have no doubts Bill Belicheck is not only the greatest NFL coach of all time...He is far and away the greatest pro coach of all time in any sport


I had no idea Jon Gruden was narrating the film.


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 Post subject: Re: Rumors on Belichick after McDaniels getting cold feet w
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FC wrote:
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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.


After watching this I have no doubts Bill Belicheck is not only the greatest NFL coach of all time...He is far and away the greatest pro coach of all time in any sport



Yep me too after watching...dude has now coached in 11 Super Bowls since ‘86, basically 1 out of every 3 in the last 32 years...dude has seen everything and has Ernie the Rainman who remembers everything.


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Also, back to the OP, it has been reported by Yahoo sports that McDaniel will indeed return to the Pats next season.


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 Post subject: Re: Rumors on Belichick after McDaniels getting cold feet w
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HOLY shit

I better get out and play the lottery

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -patriots/

This spun fast

Around 5pm Boston radio was confirming he was being announced on Wed for Indy


Hahah

Belichick is going to walk. :lol:

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BethlehemSteel wrote:
HOLY shit

I better get out and play the lottery

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -patriots/

This spun fast

Around 5pm Boston radio was confirming he was being announced on Wed for Indy


Hahah

Belichick is going to walk. :lol:


Gotta wonder. Nothing like this has happened since Belichick fucked over the Jets a day after accepting the Jets.


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I watched the two bills last night on 30 for 30.


After watching this I have no doubts Bill Belicheck is not only the greatest NFL coach of all time...He is far and away the greatest pro coach of all time in any sport


Close 2nd to Tomlin IMO.


LOL.


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swissvale72 wrote:
BethlehemSteel wrote:
HOLY shit

I better get out and play the lottery

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -patriots/

This spun fast

Around 5pm Boston radio was confirming he was being announced on Wed for Indy


Hahah

Belichick is going to walk. :lol:


Gotta wonder. Nothing like this has happened since Belichick fucked over the Jets a day after accepting the Jets.

Someone photoed Kraft and Belichick at red lobster tonight

https://mobile.twitter.com/stoolpreside ... 37/photo/1

Must be that bill wants extra biscuits

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I’m not sure BB and tomlin could be more different; BB is obsessed with details, the nuances, trying to out scheme and out coach everyone else. Fraudlin is a rah rah guy that doesn’t give a shit what his players do and just hopes when the clock turns 0:00 that his guys have more points than the other team.


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I’d hate to admit it at this point but i want more silver trophies

EMR......wake up

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Orangesteel wrote:
I’m not sure BB and tomlin could be more different; BB is obsessed with details, the nuances, trying to out scheme and out coach everyone else. Fraudlin is a rah rah guy that doesn’t give a shit what his players do and just hopes when the clock turns 0:00 that his guys have more points than the other team.


They could NOT be more different-- polar fucking opposites


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