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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:14 pm 
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swissvale72 wrote:
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Who fucking cares, anymore.

Harrison wouldn't have put the Steelers over the top in the Divisional. He made zero difference in the Patriots run. Be mad at Tomlin or Colbert or Rooney for an utterly inconsequential move all you want. It's irrelevant and so was James Harrison.

This is literally bitching just to bitch.


You continue to miss the point.

The bitching, at least mine, doesn't stem from any sense that Harrison would have been helpful to the Steelers....rather, that he WAS helpful to the Patriots. He improved a very weak front 7. Tomlin made a move to strengthen his top adversary. What a dumbfuck!!

C’mon Swiss...Pats won the Super Bowl a year ago. Made it back but lost this year. Did he really improve them that much?
Very minor upgrade, IMO.
There’s a lot to bitch about regarding Tomlin...this is far down on the list.
Here’s the way I look at Harrison...
Cowher cut him...signs with arch rival Rats.
Team let’s him hit FA...signs with arch rival Bungs.
Tomlin cuts him...signs with arch rival Cheats.
Harrison has/had the right to sign with whatever organization he wished...those three are the ones he chose. Great football player...yes. Great Steeler...no fucking way!

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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:16 pm 
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I have little doubt that 1) if we still had James against the Jags and 2) Tomlin played James against the Jags (one of which we didn't and the other being unlikely even if we did) James could have helped out at some level because, quite frankly, our edge and run defense couldn't have been much worse. In fact, if we had 1) signed a 3 foot midget with herpes the day before the Jags game and 2) Tomlin played said midget against the Jags he could have helped out at some level because, quite frankly, our edge and run defense couldn't have been much worse. Unfortunately, we will never know if James or a midget would have helped.

That being said, James had no presence in the Super Bowl. He only showed up on TV because the broadcast kept forcing him on the viewing audience. They obviously had some pre-planned and hoped for story about how the Steelers cut James, he got picked up by the savvy Patriots and the elder LB made good in the Super Bowl demonstrating the greatness of the Pats and said elder LB. They kept forcing shots of James and talking about him when, frankly, he wasn't doing anything a. They weren't doing that on the other side of the defense. Forced story where they had nothing to show but kept trying and showed us the nothing over and over. If you take out the meaningless shots and announcer jabber on James there was nothing to see.

I don't like how James forced his exit. Don't like how Tomlin couldn't find a few plays for him either. Quite frankly, the whole thing was a shit show. And I'll admit I was kind of happy to see James do shit in the Super Bowl. But, he is one of my favorite Steelers of the last decade, I'll get over my shitty attitude about how it ended and life will go on. And James won't give a crap either way. :)


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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:13 pm 
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Steel Reign wrote:
I have little doubt that 1) if we still had James against the Jags and 2) Tomlin played James against the Jags (one of which we didn't and the other being unlikely even if we did) James could have helped out at some level because, quite frankly, our edge and run defense couldn't have been much worse. In fact, if we had 1) signed a 3 foot midget with herpes the day before the Jags game and 2) Tomlin played said midget against the Jags he could have helped out at some level because, quite frankly, our edge and run defense couldn't have been much worse. Unfortunately, we will never know if James or a midget would have helped.

That being said, James had no presence in the Super Bowl. He only showed up on TV because the broadcast kept forcing him on the viewing audience. They obviously had some pre-planned and hoped for story about how the Steelers cut James, he got picked up by the savvy Patriots and the elder LB made good in the Super Bowl demonstrating the greatness of the Pats and said elder LB. They kept forcing shots of James and talking about him when, frankly, he wasn't doing anything a. They weren't doing that on the other side of the defense. Forced story where they had nothing to show but kept trying and showed us the nothing over and over. If you take out the meaningless shots and announcer jabber on James there was nothing to see.

I don't like how James forced his exit. Don't like how Tomlin couldn't find a few plays for him either. Quite frankly, the whole thing was a shit show. And I'll admit I was kind of happy to see James do shit in the Super Bowl. But, he is one of my favorite Steelers of the last decade, I'll get over my shitty attitude about how it ended and life will go on. And James won't give a crap either way. :)


I don’t know.

They played Harrison a ton in the second half of the Baltimore game, and the Ravens’ run game continued to gash us.

He did nothing that day...he didn’t stop the Eagles’ run game on Sunday.

I see nothing that says he would have helped against Jax.

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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:50 pm 
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Jeemie wrote:
Steel Reign wrote:
I have little doubt that 1) if we still had James against the Jags and 2) Tomlin played James against the Jags (one of which we didn't and the other being unlikely even if we did) James could have helped out at some level because, quite frankly, our edge and run defense couldn't have been much worse. In fact, if we had 1) signed a 3 foot midget with herpes the day before the Jags game and 2) Tomlin played said midget against the Jags he could have helped out at some level because, quite frankly, our edge and run defense couldn't have been much worse. Unfortunately, we will never know if James or a midget would have helped.

That being said, James had no presence in the Super Bowl. He only showed up on TV because the broadcast kept forcing him on the viewing audience. They obviously had some pre-planned and hoped for story about how the Steelers cut James, he got picked up by the savvy Patriots and the elder LB made good in the Super Bowl demonstrating the greatness of the Pats and said elder LB. They kept forcing shots of James and talking about him when, frankly, he wasn't doing anything a. They weren't doing that on the other side of the defense. Forced story where they had nothing to show but kept trying and showed us the nothing over and over. If you take out the meaningless shots and announcer jabber on James there was nothing to see.

I don't like how James forced his exit. Don't like how Tomlin couldn't find a few plays for him either. Quite frankly, the whole thing was a shit show. And I'll admit I was kind of happy to see James do shit in the Super Bowl. But, he is one of my favorite Steelers of the last decade, I'll get over my shitty attitude about how it ended and life will go on. And James won't give a crap either way. :)


I don’t know.

They played Harrison a ton in the second half of the Baltimore game, and the Ravens’ run game continued to gash us.

He did nothing that day...he didn’t stop the Eagles’ run game on Sunday.

I see nothing that says he would have helped against Jax.

He was a JAG and nothing more.


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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:47 am 
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If we would have beat Jax and lost to NE (which would have happened), there wouldn’t be one Tomlin / Cobert/ Rooney apologist posting on this thread, defending this ridiculous move. That’s back to back years where our organization couldn’t handle how to manage a player who ended up in NE and helping them go to the Super Bowl.

Let’s not even talk about the players we wouldn’t even consider adding that helped NE get to SB’s.....Randy Moss comes to mind.

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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:48 am 
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Suwanee88 wrote:
If we would have beat Jax and lost to NE (which would have happened), there wouldn’t be one Tomlin / Cobert/ Rooney apologist posting on this thread about this move.


Not convinced we would have lost.

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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:21 am 
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Jobus Rum wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
randomsteelerfan wrote:
Who fucking cares, anymore.

Harrison wouldn't have put the Steelers over the top in the Divisional. He made zero difference in the Patriots run. Be mad at Tomlin or Colbert or Rooney for an utterly inconsequential move all you want. It's irrelevant and so was James Harrison.

This is literally bitching just to bitch.


You continue to miss the point.

The bitching, at least mine, doesn't stem from any sense that Harrison would have been helpful to the Steelers....rather, that he WAS helpful to the Patriots. He improved a very weak front 7. Tomlin made a move to strengthen his top adversary. What a dumbfuck!!

C’mon Swiss...Pats won the Super Bowl a year ago. Made it back but lost this year. Did he really improve them that much?
Very minor upgrade, IMO.
There’s a lot to bitch about regarding Tomlin...this is far down on the list.

Here’s the way I look at Harrison...
Cowher cut him...signs with arch rival Rats.
Team let’s him hit FA...signs with arch rival Bungs.
Tomlin cuts him...signs with arch rival Cheats.
Harrison has/had the right to sign with whatever organization he wished...those three are the ones he chose. Great football player...yes. Great Steeler...no fucking way!


Regardless of the degree of upgrade, the Head Coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers being complicit in improving the New England Patriots, on the eve of the NFL Playoffs, is inexcusable...and this sort of dumbfuckery isn't far down the list, IMO, it's the essence of Mike Tomlin.

Three years ago, he gives away LeGarrette Blount...who ends the season posing with the Lombardi Trophy, and exacerbates the situation by ignoring the need for capable backup to LBell. Consequently, his team goes into a home playoff game starting a running back that was last seen on his couch the preceding Sunday.

This guy, Tomlin, dumbshit moves, ignores the need, like a dumbshit, to make necessary moves.

The quality of Harrison's play during the playoffs isn't really the issue....more the issue is Tomlin having provided his self-described main rival, with an asset that had the possibility of improving them to any extent.


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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:22 am 
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Suwanee88 wrote:
If we would have beat Jax and lost to NE (which would have happened), there wouldn’t be one Tomlin / Cobert/ Rooney apologist posting on this thread, defending this ridiculous move. That’s back to back years where our organization couldn’t handle how to manage a player who ended up in NE and helping them go to the Super Bowl.

Let’s not even talk about the players we wouldn’t even consider adding that helped NE get to SB’s.....Randy Moss comes to mind.

Stale bread - Where Art2 Thou?


Nobody is defending the move in this thread either.

And Blount was four years ago, not two years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:23 am 
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Still Lit wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:
If we would have beat Jax and lost to NE (which would have happened), there wouldn’t be one Tomlin / Cobert/ Rooney apologist posting on this thread about this move.


Not convinced we would have lost.

High probability


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 Post subject: Re: James Harrison with pressure off the edge.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:26 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:
If we would have beat Jax and lost to NE (which would have happened), there wouldn’t be one Tomlin / Cobert/ Rooney apologist posting on this thread, defending this ridiculous move. That’s back to back years where our organization couldn’t handle how to manage a player who ended up in NE and helping them go to the Super Bowl.

Let’s not even talk about the players we wouldn’t even consider adding that helped NE get to SB’s.....Randy Moss comes to mind.

Stale bread - Where Art2 Thou?


Nobody is defending the move in this thread either.

And Blount was four years ago, not two years ago.

Yes they are. They are discounting the move which is a form of defending the Steelers. Two, Three, Four years, I don’t care. Multiple SB assists.


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