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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:07 pm 
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While I would rather let Bell walk than FT him, I don't think we will.
It ties up our cap to the point where we can't get any help at FS or ILB.
KC doesn't like going into a draft with major holes. He has 2 on defense.

If Bell stays via the FT, we will obviously get a 3rd comp next year.
Look for us to pull off a trade similar to what they did with Shamarko years back.
We trade our original 2019 3rd for a mid-4th this year. That makes up for the McDonald trade.


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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:03 pm 
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Time to cut bait with the Le'veon Bell clown show. Let him try to find his greener pastures.

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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:15 pm 
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We need a LOLB, MLB, and FS in the worst possible way. If Hargrave continues to suck and the injury rumor was a myth...we have real problems at NT too.

Dumping 14 million on a RB in today's NFL is insanity. With 14 million you can fix 2 positions on D and sign a decent RB free agent. We have to stop the insanity around Bell.


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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:40 pm 
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franco32 wrote:
We need a LOLB, MLB, and FS in the worst possible way. If Hargrave continues to suck and the injury rumor was a myth...we have real problems at NT too.

Dumping 14 million on a RB in today's NFL is insanity. With 14 million you can fix 2 positions on D and sign a decent RB free agent. We have to stop the insanity around Bell.
Hopefully bell is listening to the chatter.

If he signs for the big money, then we know where his priorities are.

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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:50 pm 
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franco32 wrote:
With 14 million you can fix 2 positions on D and sign a decent RB free agent. We have to stop the insanity around Bell.


LOL, no. In today's NFL, $5M in FA will get you a safety of Mike Mitchell's caliber - consider that Wilcox was $3M a year.

If you take a bit of a risk, $7M MIGHT get you a decent defensive FA. You spend $14M on two defense FA's, one might end-up being a player and the other a JAG. Sure, we'd take that, but let's not get carried away with what $14M is actually going to do with you in FA.

The way the cap has gone up in recent years you have to build your team almost exclusively thru the draft. "Fix" 2 defensive positions AND sign a decent RB - you're talking $20M+, easy.

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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:19 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
franco32 wrote:
With 14 million you can fix 2 positions on D and sign a decent RB free agent. We have to stop the insanity around Bell.


LOL, no. In today's NFL, $5M in FA will get you a safety of Mike Mitchell's caliber - consider that Wilcox was $3M a year.

You base your opinion on numbers alone. It's like a real estate agent using comps to tell you what your house is worth. It's useful up until a certain point.

Along comes somebody that loves the tile in the kitchen, the gazebo in the back yard, and the numbers go flying out the double pane bay window.

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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:09 pm 
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Imagine the kitchen has upgraded appliances.....

I love these homebuying analogies

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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:12 pm 
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BarryFoster wrote:
Imagine the kitchen has upgraded appliances.....

I love these homebuying analogies
I can put a price tag on upgraded appliances.

But how do you value : " I just love the red streaks in the tile, and the gazebo is just so cute!!!"

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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:44 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
franco32 wrote:
With 14 million you can fix 2 positions on D and sign a decent RB free agent. We have to stop the insanity around Bell.


LOL, no. In today's NFL, $5M in FA will get you a safety of Mike Mitchell's caliber - consider that Wilcox was $3M a year.

If you take a bit of a risk, $7M MIGHT get you a decent defensive FA. You spend $14M on two defense FA's, one might end-up being a player and the other a JAG. Sure, we'd take that, but let's not get carried away with what $14M is actually going to do with you in FA.

The way the cap has gone up in recent years you have to build your team almost exclusively thru the draft. "Fix" 2 defensive positions AND sign a decent RB - you're talking $20M+, easy.

This may be true overall, but it's overstating the cap hits in year 1, which is our primary concern. 14M is enough for 2018.


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 Post subject: Re: Bouchette: Bell/Steelers not close to a deal
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:59 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
Along comes somebody that loves the tile in the kitchen, the gazebo in the back yard, and the numbers go flying out the double pane bay window.


a.k.a. "the sucker"....problem is, in this scenario the player is the seller, which makes PIT the sucker

Congrats, you succinctly explained why overpaying other teams' castoffs is usually a bad bet.

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