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 Post subject: Update: Karl Dunbar hired as new DL coach
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Sources: Alabama assistant (and Former Rex Ryan assistant) Karl Dunbar is in discussions with the #Steelers to be their next defensive line coach.


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According to a Thursday morning report by Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News, Karl Dunbar, who is currently an Alabama assistant coach, is in discussions with the Pittsburgh Steelers to be their next defensive line coach.


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If this report is true, it could mean that current Steelers defensive line coach John Mitchell might be retiring, or isn’t having his contract renewed, or that he might be retiring after the 2018 season. Mitchell has been the Steelers defensive line coach since 1994.

Dunbar has been the Alabama defensive line coach for the past two seasons and prior to that he spent one season with the Buffalo Bills, three seasons with the New York Jets and 6 seasons with the Minnesota Vikings.

In 2006, when Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was the Vikings defensive coordinator, Dunbar was hired to be the Minnesota defensive line coach.

On Wednesday, Steelers team president Art Rooney II indicated that the organization was still working on some contracts and said Tomlin may add another coach somewhere because they did not replace former offensive coordinator Todd Haley with an outsider recently.

Dunbar, who played three seasons in the NFL for the New Orleans Saints and Arizona Cardinals, was selected originally by the Steelers in the eighth round, 209th overall, of the 1990 NFL Draft out of LSU.


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 Post subject: Re: Karl Dunbar in negotiations to be new Steelers DL coach
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Karl Dunbar is the answer to one of the most difficult Steelers trivia questions of all time...I pretty much guarantee no one gets it right even with google

Quality hire if he gets the job....He is a 1st class...1st rate motherfucker and a half. He is going to absolutely break that useless fat lazy piece of shit Javon Hargrave

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 Post subject: Re: Karl Dunbar in negotiations to be new Steelers DL coach
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Karl Dunbar is the answer to one of the most difficult Steelers trivia questions of all time...I pretty much guarantee no one gets it right even with google

Quality hire if he gets the job....He is a 1st class...1st rate motherfucker and a half. He is going to absolutely break that useless fat lazy piece of shit Javon Hargrave





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 Post subject: Re: Karl Dunbar in negotiations to be new Steelers DL coach
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Bouchette confirmed but it's not for the DL coach job as Mitchell is expected to return.

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Karl Dunbar is the answer to one of the most difficult Steelers trivia questions of all time...I pretty much guarantee no one gets it right even with google

Quality hire if he gets the job....He is a 1st class...1st rate motherfucker and a half. He is going to absolutely break that useless fat lazy piece of shit Javon Hargrave

Did you see the report that Hargrave played with a back injury most of the year? In the P-G chat.

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any idea what position 43?


I haven't seen anything. I suppose he could be assistant dl coach if Mitchell plans to retire after the season

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Karl Dunbar is the answer to one of the most difficult Steelers trivia questions of all time...I pretty much guarantee no one gets it right even with google

Quality hire if he gets the job....He is a 1st class...1st rate motherfucker and a half. He is going to absolutely break that useless fat lazy piece of shit Javon Hargrave

Did you see the report that Hargrave played with a back injury most of the year? In the P-G chat.


There was a comment on Steelers Nation Radio from Wolfley about getting a healthy Hargrave back for next year so it seems to be the case.

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 Post subject: Re: Karl Dunbar in negotiations to be new Steelers DL coach
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Didn’t Mitchell say he was retiring when Aaron Smith did?

Seems he’s a bit overdue.


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DL coach John Mitchell is not being let go or retiring. He will be with Steelers in 2018. But they are looking at candidates to come in and perhaps tutor under him till he retires.


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DL coach John Mitchell is not being let go or retiring. He will be with Steelers in 2018. But they are looking at candidates to come in and perhaps tutor under him till he retires.
I guess that means you and a number of other posters won't be happy until Mitchell is shown the door. But there's hope for a new DB coach!!! :D

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FC, I admit spending time trying to figure out Karl Dunbar's Steelers trivia question. Have come up empty so far...

EDIT... Found it! Wow.

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FC, I admit spending time trying to figure out Karl Dunbar's Steelers trivia question. Have come up empty so far.





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FC this is your trivia answer..


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No, Greek-- I think it's way better than that!

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No, Greek-- I think it's way better than that!


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Karl Dunbar is the answer to one of the most difficult Steelers trivia questions of all time...I pretty much guarantee no one gets it right even with google

Quality hire if he gets the job....He is a 1st class...1st rate motherfucker and a half. He is going to absolutely break that useless fat lazy piece of shit Javon Hargrave


Did he run down Eric Greene on that non TD? When Greene ran out of gas, we lost in OT to AZ. Thursday night game I think.

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Drug dealer put a hit out on him because of his work as a NARC agent?


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He had sex with Stormy Daniels?

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Did he do things in his office with his young intern?

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Nothing naughty like that....The Stormy Daniels comment did make me laugh out loud

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Ok I will be stop being a prick

He was a former Steelers draft pick
He did work as an auxiliary cop

He is the first person to challenge and win against the NFL over a failed drug test(PEDS). He has a skin condition called vitiligo...Treatment calls for a corticosteroid regiment.

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redundant post.


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We have hired Karl Dunbar as defensive line coach, and John Mitchell will remain on the coaching staff as assistant head coach.

So now we are going to have Tomlin, Mitchell & Butler as the defensive coordinator trio. Isn't that like having too many head cooks in the kitchen?


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Actually, FC, I thought you were going for the: only guy to work as an undercover cop and get an arrest collar while an active NFL player.

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We have hired Karl Dunbar as defensive line coach, and John Mitchell will remain on the coaching staff as assistant head coach.

So now we are going to have Tomlin, Mitchell & Butler as the defensive coordinator trio. Isn't that like having too many head cooks in the kitchen?

Mitchell was already the Assistant Head Coach. Nothing has changed except that they added a new DL coach to the mix.

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We have hired Karl Dunbar as defensive line coach, and John Mitchell will remain on the coaching staff as assistant head coach.

So now we are going to have Tomlin, Mitchell & Butler as the defensive coordinator trio. Isn't that like having too many head cooks in the kitchen?


Depends. Are we talking head chefs or McDonalds fry cooks?


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Can Dunbar rush the passer? Cause we don’t really have any edge rushers right now


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Karl Dunbar is the answer to one of the most difficult Steelers trivia questions of all time...I pretty much guarantee no one gets it right even with google

Quality hire if he gets the job....He is a 1st class...1st rate motherfucker and a half. He is going to absolutely break that useless fat lazy piece of shit Javon Hargrave

Did you see the report that Hargrave played with a back injury most of the year? In the P-G chat.


There was a comment on Steelers Nation Radio from Wolfley about getting a healthy Hargrave back for next year so it seems to be the case.


Why was he playing so much then?

Why is McCullers on this fucking team then? Speaking of useless and lazy....both of our NT seem to resemble exactly that.

Is Big Snack in shape by any chance?


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We have hired Karl Dunbar as defensive line coach, and John Mitchell will remain on the coaching staff as assistant head coach.

So now we are going to have Tomlin, Mitchell & Butler as the defensive coordinator trio. Isn't that like having too many head cooks in the kitchen?



Add in Tom Bradley a LONG time DC in the college ranks. Sounds like the are hedging their bets that with all these coaches someone will be able to come up with an adequate gameplan :lol:

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sounds like cluster fuck will continue..


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Now..., if they could just get some decent damned LB'er coaching on the staff I think this defense will begin to shape up. I too like the Dunbar hire.


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Steelfan do you think they still might be looking to make a move with the Olb coaches. I still hope they add a qb coach


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they need to add a QB coach

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they need to add a QB coach

Why?


If you find the right guy...The right fit.
Its another set of eyes.
Its a buffer between the OC and QB...Which at times is needed when its no longer needed you need a new quarterback or coordinator

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The back injury to Hargrave makes so much sense now. The guy's play was drastically different most of the year compared to what he looked like late last year and very early this season. This is actually good news.

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If he can get healthy sure it’s good news. Back injury sounds scary to me, though.

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A back injury is never good news.
That said, I’d take that report with a grain of salt(Tunch and Wolf :roll: ). It seems to be a Steelers staple that every time a player doesn’t live up to expectations, all of a sudden it’s due to some mysterious injury. To be honest, Hargrave wasn’t all that good in 2016 either.

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Now..., if they could just get some decent damned LB'er coaching on the staff I think this defense will begin to shape up. I too like the Dunbar hire.



I'm sure they'll bring another ex-DC to coach the LB's. John Pagano....Dean Pees? :lol:

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Now..., if they could just get some decent damned LB'er coaching on the staff I think this defense will begin to shape up. I too like the Dunbar hire.



I'm sure they'll bring another ex-DC to coach the LB's. John Pagano....Dean Pees? :lol:

I would take either at this point. Exactly what has Porter [<especially] and Olsavsky contributed lately? There needs to be a fresh set of eyes IMO.
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I honestly don't believe they're even in the market for LB'ers position coaches. That said, I didn't think they would hire a new DLine position coach either so anything is possible. I just can't help but notice how these new hires are all related to someone on the staff or within the franchise. Nepotism is not an issue in the Steelers organization.


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Thanks for posting these FC. I think that we tend to underestimate the value of position coaches and we tend to focus on coordinators.

These videos to me show the importance of position coaches. In college, I spent 80%+ of my time with the position coaches and I would assume that it is the same in the NFL. They have a huge impact in terms of teaching technique, correct footwork and hand placement, route running, positioning DBs etc.

I love to see those videos and I question what Porter does with the OLBs.

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A back injury is never good news.
That said, I’d take that report with a grain of salt(Tunch and Wolf :roll: ). It seems to be a Steelers staple that every time a player doesn’t live up to expectations, all of a sudden it’s due to some mysterious injury. To be honest, Hargrave wasn’t all that good in 2016 either.


Yeah man Tunch and Wolf know nothing about the team. You clearly are better connected than they are to the team they work for. Despite Wolf doing a radio show with Hargrave, I'm sure he doesn't know if the kid is hurt or not.

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A back injury is never good news.
That said, I’d take that report with a grain of salt(Tunch and Wolf :roll: ). It seems to be a Steelers staple that every time a player doesn’t live up to expectations, all of a sudden it’s due to some mysterious injury. To be honest, Hargrave wasn’t all that good in 2016 either.


Yeah man Tunch and Wolf know nothing about the team. You clearly are better connected than they are to the team they work for. Despite Wolf doing a radio show with Hargrave, I'm sure he doesn't know if the kid is hurt or not.

Those two guys are company mouthpieces...put out exactly what they are told to put out. And I know that you know that.
“Better connected” or not....who’s to say.

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I love this hire. I do have an issue most of the time about hiring former players but not so with Dunbar. He is not so indoctrinated into the Dick LeBeau 3-4 defense, he is not so blinded.

Why is that? Because in his NFL coaching career he has coached in 4-3 defenses predominantly.

In Minnesota from 2006-2011. They ran a 4-3. Everyone will talk of Kevin Williams and Pat Williams the two DTs. But don't forget that they had Ray Edwards who had 16.5 sacks his last two seasons with the Vikings and then left as a free agent. In the 2009 playoffs, he had 4 sacks in those 2 games. They also had a guy named Jared Allen, maybe you heard of him, Dunbar saw him collect 62 sacks in the 4 years he coached him.

Yeah, Tomlin was with Dunbar for one year in 2006 but then Karl was able to coach with Leslie Frasier, a longtime coach of the 4-3 defense.

Even with his time with the Jets, 2012-2014, and with the Bills, 2015, yes, officially some have them listed as playing 3-4 defenses, but not really. The Jets would use Calvin Pace or Sheldon Richardson as one of the OLBs, with Buffalo, Jerry Hughes, is not and has never been an OLB. I get so tired when people throw up these other 3-4 defenses and say hey nothing wrong with our 3-4, look at them.

But the point with Dunbar, and what I have wanted for the past couple years, is an influx of new coaches that have familiarity, have expertise in 4-3 defenses. Our old 3-4 defense is not cutting it anymore, we need to move on from it. Hiring Dunbar, phasing out Mitchell is a long overdue step that had to be done.

I don't care what people say, I am going to single handedly will this team into a 4-3 defense!!! :lol:

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FC wrote:
86n96 wrote:
steelmann58 wrote:
they need to add a QB coach

Why?


If you find the right guy...The right fit.
Its another set of eyes.
Its a buffer between the OC and QB...Which at times is needed when its no longer needed you need a new quarterback or coordinator

The right fit...that's the big one. 7's not known for his compatibility. Is Leftwich available now that BA retired?

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