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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:09 pm 
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IMO, no. Too polite and syntax too correct.

Give it time...its him.


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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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IMO, no. Too polite and syntax too correct.

Give it time...its him.


Who is Zivco?

VHilts is clearly STD.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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When Shazier got drafted it was a minority of posters that liked the pick. Then when we got to see Shaz play in games, he looked real good for a Rookie, a guy whose going to be even better when he figures out the D. So now its "injury prone/small frame", not "he sucks".

And so far he is getting injured, But when Shaz does play a long stretch of healthy games either this year or next, I think alot of guys will have no choice but to get on his bandwagon.


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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I wish people would remember how Shazier injured his knee against the panthers. I tried looking for the gif but couldn't find it.

The play was essentially over and an offensive lineman shoved Timmons, who was already down on one knee I think, into Shazier who just showed up at the end. His knee was hit by Timmons and was bent sideways as a result of a late block.

Anybody standing there with the exception of James Harrison, who has nylon ligaments, would have been injured.

Shazier's size or frame had absolutely nothing to do with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I'm not Zivco.

I've read this and really every other Steeler board for quite some time. I'm aware of who Zivco is and I think Zivco was one of the more football knowledgeable posters I've read on these boards and I share many of his positions. But I have no interest in commenting on legal or social issues tenuously related to football- which I would guess is why he is banned or whatever.

I'm not much for spelling and grammar and I really don't care for this speculation. If this turns into CSI grammar detectives as to my "true" identity everytime I make a grammatical or spelling error, or everytime I share an opinion with Zivco I'll join another board. It seems like most of this board realizes Shazier is frail for the position and has missed playing time on three occasions since contact started.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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straightoutofClemson wrote:
I'm not Zivco.

I've read this and really every other Steeler board for quite some time. I'm aware of who Zivco is and I think Zivco was one of the more football knowledgeable posters I've read on these boards and I share many of his positions. But I have no interest in commenting on legal or social issues tenuously related to football- which I would guess is why he is banned or whatever.

I'm not much for spelling and grammar and I really don't care for this speculation. If this turns into CSI grammar detectives as to my "true" identity everytime I make a grammatical or spelling error, or everytime I share an opinion with Zivco I'll join another board. It seems like most of this board realizes Shazier is frail for the position and has missed playing time on three occasions since contact started.


I don't. I think his inexperience places him in bad positions, but dumb luck is something everybody ignores when pointing the blame to a narrow frame and being frail so that their view is supported. Look at the Troy injury. It was a dumb play and he suffered the consequences. He should have wrapped him up and he launched himself like a missile instead. Does that make him frail?

Same shit was thrown around for Pouncey yet every injury he had was because of someone else. Not his frame or his play.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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[quote="COR-TEN"][quote="straightoutofClemson"]I'm not Zivco.

I've read this and really every other Steeler board for quite some time. I'm aware of who Zivco is and I think Zivco was one of the more football knowledgeable posters I've read on these boards and I share many of his positions. But I have no interest in commenting on legal or social issues tenuously related to football- which I would guess is why he is banned or whatever.

I'm not much for spelling and grammar and I really don't care for this speculation. If this turns into CSI grammar detectives as to my "true" identity everytime I make a grammatical or spelling error, or everytime I share an opinion with Zivco I'll join another board. It seems like most of this board realizes [b]Shazier is frail[/b] for the position and has missed playing time on three occasions since contact started.[/quote]

I don't. I think his inexperience places him in bad positions, but dumb luck is something everybody ignores when pointing the blame to a narrow frame and being frail so that their view is supported. Look at the Troy injury. It was a dumb play and he suffered the consequences. He should have wrapped him up and he launched himself like a missile instead. Does that make him frail?

Same shit was thrown around for Pouncey yet every injury he had was because of someone else. Not his frame or his play.[/quote]

Agree 100%

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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straightoutofClemson wrote:
I'm not Zivco.

I've read this and really every other Steeler board for quite some time. I'm aware of who Zivco is and I think Zivco was one of the more football knowledgeable posters I've read on these boards and I share many of his positions. But I have no interest in commenting on legal or social issues tenuously related to football- which I would guess is why he is banned or whatever.

I'm not much for spelling and grammar and I really don't care for this speculation. If this turns into CSI grammar detectives as to my "true" identity everytime I make a grammatical or spelling error, or everytime I share an opinion with Zivco I'll join another board. It seems like most of this board realizes Shazier is frail for the position and has missed playing time on three occasions since contact started.



Cool. Hopefully you won't start pm'ing people calling them faggots and threatening to shoot them in the face :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I don't. I think his inexperience places him in bad positions, but dumb luck is something everybody ignores when pointing the blame to a narrow frame and being frail so that their view is supported. Look at the Troy injury. It was a dumb play and he suffered the consequences. He should have wrapped him up and he launched himself like a missile instead. Does that make him frail?

Same shit was thrown around for Pouncey yet every injury he had was because of someone else. Not his frame or his play.


This has nothing to do with Pouncey. Or Troy. Both have substantial NFL playing histories and look the part for there positions. I don't think any of the injuries Shazier has sustained thus far are nearly as impactful or flukey as the injuries to Pouncey or Troy, although I did not see video of him being run over by Bell in camp. It's three seperate injuries over the course of half a season.

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Cool. Hopefully you won't start pm'ing people calling them faggots and threatening to shoot them in the face


As I said I have read here for a while. I think you exist only to instigate bullshit. Have I given any sign that I cared to indulge in your sort of short bus dumbfuckery? I hope to read something football related from you eventually.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:25 pm 
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I don't. I think his inexperience places him in bad positions, but dumb luck is something everybody ignores when pointing the blame to a narrow frame and being frail so that their view is supported. Look at the Troy injury. It was a dumb play and he suffered the consequences. He should have wrapped him up and he launched himself like a missile instead. Does that make him frail?

Same shit was thrown around for Pouncey yet every injury he had was because of someone else. Not his frame or his play.


This has nothing to do with Pouncey. Or Troy. Both have substantial NFL playing histories and look the part for there positions. I don't think any of the injuries Shazier has sustained thus far are nearly as impactful or flukey as the injuries to Pouncey or Troy, although I did not see video of him being run over by Bell in camp. It's three seperate injuries over the course of half a season.

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Cool. Hopefully you won't start pm'ing people calling them faggots and threatening to shoot them in the face


As I said I have read here for a while. I think you exist only to instigate bullshit. Have I given any sign that I cared to indulge in your sort of short bus dumbfuckery? I hope to read something football related from you eventually.



Yep, welcome back old pal Ziv.


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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.


Because I once got in trouble for typing what you have in quotations above....actually banned for it, I will not use that term.

I also don't buy the frail player is susceptible to more ligament damage than a larger player.

I believe you get rolled up on, regardless of size, bad injuries typically result. It's bad luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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It's amazing how much havoc Zivco managed to wreak around these parts in only a few months.


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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.


Because I once got in trouble for typing what you have in quotations above....actually banned for it, I will not use that term.

I also don't buy the frail player is susceptible to more ligament damage than a larger player.

I believe you get rolled up on, regardless of size, bad injuries typically result. It's bad luck.



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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.


If you're looking for a peer-reviewed study on the topic I don't think there's one out there.

It's common sense. Small framed means you have narrow shoulders and hips, small and thin bone structure. The size and thickness of ligaments and tendons are generally proportionate to the bone structure to which they attach. Sure, there are outlier small framed people with freakish thick and strong ligaments and tendons, but for most people body parts are well-proportioned.

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 Post subject: Re: Will Shazier play two games in a row this season?
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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.


If you're looking for a peer-reviewed study on the topic I don't think there's one out there.

It's common sense. Small framed means you have narrow shoulders and hips, small and thin bone structure. The size and thickness of ligaments and tendons are generally proportionate to the bone structure to which they attach. Sure, there are outlier small framed people with freakish thick and strong ligaments and tendons, but for most people body parts are well-proportioned.


Is it common sense? I wonder that gymnasts and yoga freaks would sprain as easily as big, thick built people.

I don't have much invested in this and was only joking about demanding a medical study. I hope Shaz gets over the injury bug and starts producing.

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I really don't care why Shazier is injured, I never related his fraility to injury. It's as simple as three seperate injuries, one of them to an ankle, not the knee in half a season. And he wasn't rolled up on with anywhere near the force Troy or Pouncey was. In fact, I don't think he immediately lost his balance.

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And the evidence against me is what? A single opinion and poor grammar? I really don't need the cloak and dagger bullshit. I'm not here to throw insults or become involved in the social issues many of you are so concerned with.

As a reader it was easy to recognize that there is one standard for trolling for those that worship Ben, hate Lebeau, Haley, then Tomlin in that order, and are social liberals...I suppose Shazier falls under that banner as well.

As I said if this speculation continues I'll find another board.

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Still Lit wrote:
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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.


If you're looking for a peer-reviewed study on the topic I don't think there's one out there.

It's common sense. Small framed means you have narrow shoulders and hips, small and thin bone structure. The size and thickness of ligaments and tendons are generally proportionate to the bone structure to which they attach. Sure, there are outlier small framed people with freakish thick and strong ligaments and tendons, but for most people body parts are well-proportioned.


Is it common sense? I wonder that gymnasts and yoga freaks would sprain as easily as big, thick built people.

I don't have much invested in this and was only joking about demanding a medical study. I hope Shaz gets over the injury bug and starts producing.


Gymnasts and "yoga freaks" are people who train extensively in flexibility and take many precautions to avoid injury...I don't think that's a fair way to try and counter what I called common sense. But anyway, I agree. I hope Shaz stays healthy. I just think his frame does have something to do with it. That's all.

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I don't. I think his inexperience places him in bad positions, but dumb luck is something everybody ignores when pointing the blame to a narrow frame and being frail so that their view is supported. Look at the Troy injury. It was a dumb play and he suffered the consequences. He should have wrapped him up and he launched himself like a missile instead. Does that make him frail?

Same shit was thrown around for Pouncey yet every injury he had was because of someone else. Not his frame or his play.


This has nothing to do with Pouncey. Or Troy. Both have substantial NFL playing histories and look the part for there positions. I don't think any of the injuries Shazier has sustained thus far are nearly as impactful or flukey as the injuries to Pouncey or Troy, although I did not see video of him being run over by Bell in camp. It's three seperate injuries over the course of half a season.

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Cool. Hopefully you won't start pm'ing people calling them faggots and threatening to shoot them in the face


As I said I have read here for a while. I think you exist only to instigate bullshit. Have I given any sign that I cared to indulge in your sort of short bus dumbfuckery? I hope to read something football related from you eventually.

And you are comparing one with another?

Please. You have no evidence to support your theory other than your biased eyeball test ignoring statistical evidence.

It actually sounds. . . .like. . . eugenics.

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this is Shazier, believe it or not

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Well at least he has a good appetite

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When was that picture taken, from when he was in HS?


He probably didn't have a phone like that in High School.


The caption from that photo:
Plantation (Fla.) High linebacker Ryan Shazier eats ribs at Dreamland Barbecue in Tuscaloosa, Ala. Shazier won a rib-eating contest against two teammates by downing 18 ribs

http://www.sikids.com/photos/25465/a-week-with-the-express/6



Thanks, quite a find.

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You know who didn't do that much in their Rookie Year? Almost every Great Steeler not named Ben. Shaz is going to be a very good player for us imo. Yeah he ain't that big, but that speed is an asset on the field as we have already seen.

Troy, for example, had an unspectacular rookie year.
Kendrell Bell had a awesome rookie year.


Bell played the same position as Shaz. Read and react.

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I'd like to see some medical or otherwise scientific evidence that possessing a "small frame" makes one more prone to ligament injury.


The inference is that small frame includes small connective tissue: ligaments cartilage, tendons. Those are hard to bulk up I would imagine. I very heard of people commenting on a players newly developed and larger tendons.

So yeah, we're apparently using high school pictures to prove a point.

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Yep. thos pictures scream frail and weak to me. :lol:

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Yep. thos pictures scream frail and weak to me. :lol:


Don't let the muscles fool you. Wrist circumference is the real indicator.


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